Openly and directly threatening genocide.
Civilization (noun):The stage of human social and cultural development and organization that is considered most advanced.
The definition Oxford Languages uses is:
“they equated the railroad with progress and civilization”
I hate to say it, but Trump used the correct definition of civilization in regards to his destruction of civilian infrastructure. It doesn’t imply genocide.
That’s not the meaning of civilization he’s using.
The Oxford Learners Dictionary you used also defines one of the meanings as
a society, its culture and its way of life during a particular period of time or in a particular part of the world
That’s the definition he’s using, and it’s definitely genocide.
Lol thank you for teaching that other commenter about how words can have multiple meanings.
Also, if you’re bickering about the definition of ‘civilization’ when you’re talking about what constitutes genocide, you’re probably committing genocide.
Infrastructure can’t “die”. He’s taking about people, their culture, and everything that makes them who they are. He’s not talking about bridges.
I had the same “well technically” thought at first but destroying that much infrastructure will result in some immediate deaths and mass casualties later. So maybe not technically genocide but in reality it’s close.
I’m not sure what my argument is exactly; I looked up the definition of civilization because I was bored and was shocked when Trump’s statement made literal sense.
That’s because anything coherent from him wasn’t written by him.
You’d think they’d do a better job managing him like they did with Reagan
But there are multiple definitions and he meant another one
He’s referring to the Iranian civilization.
It’s called genocide.
It’s called genocide
That word is too large for anyone in maga to know what it means
I know. But the alternative is education camps.
Ah, just threatening with some casual genocide. No biggie.
If I ever found myself saying “a whole civilization will die tonight if I don’t get my way”, I think I’d just kill myself. What an utterly disgusting thing to threaten. He is truly devoid of any humanity at this point.
By that point you might need the ghost of christmas past to show a younger you your future
And when the ghost of Christmas future comes to visit and show him his tombstone, he will be unfazed because he cannot read.
I’ll only negotiate with the ghost of christmas yet to come
Nah at that point the ghost of Christmas past would say fuck it and tell the ghost of things to come to just take his unredeemable soul from his mortal coil
Over on /conservative it’s Biden’s fault he has to annihilate a civilisation
Lol what pathetic assholes
He has a fucked up mind. The only thing he gets is getting his own way.
Will someone please help us remove him? Our people who are supposed to do it are too spineless to try.
Where are the international assassins we see in movies??
If the stupid US laws don’t persecute this war criminal, international court should. There’s more than enough evidence.
Too bad the US doesn’t recognize the ICC, for obvious reasons
Worse, they proactively passed legislation authorizing the invasion of The Hague in case a US official was ever brought there for war crimes. Thank dubya and the 2002 congress.
Let them try
As an American there is nothing more I’d love too see than this but it’s never going to happen. The best we can hope for is a extremely painful death for him
He should be unalived.
Oh fuck off with that. You can say killed.
Persecute, prosecute; toMAYto, toMAHto
You forgot one,
Persecute, prosecute, execute
I forgot about Dre.
Nothing comes out when you move your lips but a bunch of gibberish
I’m looking at the /r/conservative subreddit right now. Of the comments that weren’t removed (and there aren’t that many, that place is a partisan shithole and a comment graveyard), it’s just accusations of Iranian bots, claims that the Democrats are clutching at pearls, and mental gymnastics claiming that this is part of Trump’s playbook…
How many world leaders have you seen make vulgar and genocidal threats like Trump has over the last few days?
How many world leaders have you seen make vulgar and genocidal threats like Trump has over the last few days?
I can think of another one of the criminal, Bibi Netanyahu.
There is not a single genuine person commenting there. Bots and trolls all the way down.
Putin just threatened to Nuke Ukraine so… I guess the late night gossip calls got then both thinking in unison.
Russia was ‘threatening’ to nuke the collective West for ages, literally at least twelve years now. Mostly via other people though, Pu normally doesn’t do such ramblings himself.
However, Pu knows that bullshit sabre-rattling is different from actually doing things. With Trump, who ever knows what he’s thinking.
I’ve seen a good amount of people at least saying its a bad look for trump at least… some are still clinging on though… idk…
Trump will nuke Iran, and the trolls on here will still insist Kamala would have done the same thing.
Trump has been itching to use the nukes since minute one. I can easily see him dropping one on a city in Iran, and then threatening to drop another every day until they surrender and open the strait. While that is absolutely horrific, the irony is that Trump is too fucking stupid to see that the “whole civilization” that will die is the U.S… The world will shun the U.S., dump it’s bonds and destroy the dollar. There will be hyperinflation, bank runs, chaos, and a hard splinter of the U.S. into factions and likely a “hot” civil war. Trump will make clear that all of the “fearmongering” from radical Islamists about the U.S. and the western world was true, potentially igniting world war. None of this will take away from the tragedy in Iran, which just happened to be the convenient target Trump the bully thought he’d punch down on.
I think what you’re describing here is the best case scenario (if he would drop one). The worst case scenario (the one I’m most worried about) is that other (adversarial) nuclear powers react to the US launching one by launching their own, aimed at either the US, Israel or (worst of all) somewhere unrelated, like someplace in Europe or on Kiev.
That is very much a risk. When chaos rules, it becomes very difficult to anticipate all the potential consequences.
No they won’t. We buy too much shit for countries to completely cut us off.
Yep they don’t gave the balls and well justify it somehow. As cutting off the US would shrink their economy. It sucks and I wish countries would but they won’t.
oh yeah America would be bankrupted overnight
If he does, Israel will get so heavily nuked it will be a dead zone
Russia, China, Pakistan even India would be heavily impacted, all nuclear armed states
I can’t see this working out well for America’s greatest ally ever but won’t put boots on the ground
America desperately needs a military coup
If Israel gets nuked, it will do the Samson Doctrine, which is:
Nuke every nearby national capital, friend or foe.
Europe, Turkey, Egypt, fuck it.
That’s been their nuclear doctrine since they’d had nukes, which is roughly the 1970s.
BTW, they learned how to build nukes, in part, via stealing nuclear material from the US.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_affair
The most insane thing about all of this is that Iran does not possess nuclear weapons.
But Israel does, and has for decades.
Possibly, but its more likely that he just commits more warcirmes and further undermines American hegemony. The point of the far left in advocating for Trump was accelerationist; it’s that he would speed up the collapse of the American Empire. No one expected that this would come without a heavy cost. Kamala would have just delayed the inevitable by a few more years.
Trump is an idiot. The rest of his people vary from incompetent to simply evil.
I’d bet my life that the nuclear briefcase that Trump masturbates to every night is a fake. Someone in his circle has long since clipped the red wire to prevent him doing just that during a midnight Truth Social post.
This was / would have been the case during Trump I … since he scraped anyone with at least a bit of reason from his admin in favor of yes-man following his ideology… I’m disturbingly unsure if you’re right under for Trump II.
And they can be fragged when the upcoming war happens.
But Gaza tho
Geee shut up dude where did kamala come from
Well, Trump has to be someone’s fault, and if you don’t blame the leftists who complained about Kamala, then someone could end up blaming her, otlr the people who put her up, or kept Biden up, or even remember when people called Sanders the last off-ramp from the apocalypse. And we can’t have that, can we?
Trump isnt a fault, he is a true manifestation of whatever the US represents, whatever it has stood for and what does neo liberalism and capitalism leads to. Removing Trump wont solve anything, a decade down the line someone more deranged and unhinged will replace him.
This is a pretty straightforward declaration of genocidal intent. If the Americans bomb civilian infrastructure, there is a credible case for accusing them of Genocide in the Hague.
EDIT: Historian Timothy Snyder also identified it as such, pointing that this creates legal liabilities up and down the American state: https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-president-speaks-genocide
There is but then what?
Iran continues to hit back, making us presence in the middle east untenable. israel is destroyed.
I really should start taking my PTO.
Makes me glad I just passed my 6 month probationary period and can use the 6 months I banked while waiting.
- Trump will again chicken out.
- He thought (or made to believe) Regime change in Iran will a walk in the park.
- Given the situation he is currently in, he just wants to save his face by any mean.
- Dropping Nuke is biggest threat he can think of.
- He don’t have the guts to follow it through.
- He will just extend the deadline, or declare himself a winner and left Middle East to its fate.
one would also hope the military would not follow such blatantly illegals orders… but my hope on that is dwindling
https://www.axios.com/2026/04/03/military-officials-ousted-retired-trump-hegseth They are purging people from leadership roles in the military.
Good people don’t join an imperialist army.
One of the House reps just put in a resolution to impeach Hegseth, so there’s that.
What recent months have thaught us is that there are only two types of Americans: those that will actively fuck over the world and those that will them.
Trump cannot be undone by Americans, because they all either actively or passively support and enable him. The only possible solution is foreign intervention. Since European leaders are just as useless as the Americans and the Chinese have their own insane imperialist ambitions, I guess we’re all shit out of luck.
Trump cannot be undone by Americans, because they all either actively or passively support and enable him
The number of people joined the latest “No King” protest march across States draws a very different picture though.
Dude, your governement is verbatim (!) talking about killing whole civilzations.
The ratio of Americans that would take the risk of imporisonment or individual harm VS Americans that will risk their lives and die for killing babies (for no apparent reason) basically remains 0 : ∞.
It’s the most armed and violent country in the civilzed world and still it remains perfectly safe to be an operative of the fucking apocalypse.
your governement is verbatim (!) talking about killing whole civilzations.
Not sure if it will make a difference to you if I say that I’m not from USA.
Also, the pedo became president on the back of promise to end getting involved in forever foreign war.
The current sequence of events ran contrary to such promise, and many of die-hard MAGA fans are jumping the ship[1].
Not sure if it will make a difference to you if I say that I’m not from USA.
Yes, in the sense that I find it mindboggling that anyone outside the US would be impressed with Trump’s domestic opposition.
This is the man who wanted to nuke a hurricane. He’d love an opportunity to use that shit on people.
He will wake up tomorrow, and forget all about the veiled nuke threats he made a day before.
Tonight both US and Israel will likely hit harder (compared to what we already witnessed before), leaving a long trail of death (of civilians) and destruction of civilian properties and infras.
Tomorrow the pedo president will claim he sent Iran to stone age, and (again) proclaim victory in this war.
I sure hope you’re right
He’s just been itching to use a nuke since his first term. He has talked about it, joked, even suggested it might be on the table. Let history be your guide, this asshole has a pattern. I’m scared as hell.
I actually think the guy is just old man wants to see war time stuff he thinks is tough happen while he is alive and thinks history books will really remember his name if he dropped a nuke.
He wants heaven and heaven to him is everyone knowing his name.
I suspect and more hope you’re correct.
Don’t forget to account for how fucking impulsive he is
Real piece of shit.
I for one am very thankful for our beautiful Democratic Party, which while all this craziness has entered a fever pitch, they have been loudly and boldly speaking out against this every minute of the day and not focusing on unimportant matters like trying to trash talk Hasan Piker and taking personal vacations to the beach.
World peace through extermination.
“The bombings will continue until peace is achieved” is an actual quote from Trump
😂
I mean it would actually work, just not how people are thinking.
Now I’m sincerely hoping it’s gonna be another TACO Tuesday and Trump wimps out at the last second like he always does.
How he hasn’t been 25th Amendmented yet is beyond me…
They’re waiting until the halfway point so Vance can have 2.5 terms.
