You vill eat the chocolate-style cube.
All chocolate in the future will now be white chocolate.
A buddy of mine has everything but his birthday is coming up …. I found the ideal indulgence: a $20 chocolate bar!
No it’s not one of those monsters, it’s normal sized. But it’s single sourced beans, gold medal award winning, local farm fresh dairy , infused with whiskey from a local distillery. That’s something he’s never had!
wf sells that kind of bougie chocolate in thier “gourmet specialty” sections, almost nobody buys it though, only as a gift since its expensive asf, fair trade single origin i believe too.
How to say you come from the States without saying you come from the States.
Pretty interesting that this was something I remember being warned about 26 years ago
I recently had something sold as chocolate that contained 0% cocoa, its just a chunk of palm oil. First time I have ever had chocolate so bad I threw it in the bin. I can also taste it in Cadburys now, or they have increased their palm oil amount since I had eaten it previously.
I will be checking ingredient lists more often when buying chocolate now. If palm oil is the main ingredient it can fuck off.
I mean, isn’t “white chocolate” 0% cocoa?
No solids, it should be made of cocoa butter. In the shit one I had they replaced all of the cocoa butter with palm oil. Tbh I don’t think they should legally be able to call it chocolate.
Funny how the milk industry fought so hard to ban the use of milk on vegetable products. Now they are all called drink. But there was no confusion to the public just a dick move.
Yet here where the intention is clear to see something which is not it, this is magically ok.
Oh yeah I remember that. Because of their pettiness I stopped using milk, only thing I used it for as porridge and I use water instead now. Looked it up and you get the water boiling and can cook it at a higher temperature without it burning to the pan. Ends up fairly creamy still without using cows milk. Also costs less to make.
Which country did that? Cause here in the US, we still have milk everything. Oat milk, almond milk, soy milk, you name it.
this is what comes to mind. I don’t know when the switch was made but everything is drink here:
Many, many places. It’s so strongly regulated here, I think they even have to call it goat drink, too! The cow lobby is bullish, I tell you.
No that does not exist. Just the plant produxta
Okay name one.
they aren’t they can call it chocolatey or something similar but there has to be a certain amount of cocoa to be called chocolate
cocoa butter, sugar, milk solids. No cacao.
I’m quite glad I have these in my local store.
https://eat-love-chocolates.myshopify.com/products/moule-au-beurre-darachide
They’re about 5$ for one cup. Considering Reese goes for 3$ for the regular pack of 3 in vending machines, I think it’s fine. The 5$ cup is much more than 5 times better than one Reese cup. More like 500 times.
$57 for a dozen? Absolutely not.
I’m not sure about this company and their ethics but i will say we must end this entitlement of wanting cheap good shit. Someone has to make that. Would you make a peanut butter cup for under $5? I sure as fuck wouldn’t.
Well then keep eating candle wax? Snacks should be expensive.
That isn’t how things work. Just because you stop eating one, doesn’t mean you need to overpay for another. You also insinuate that I even eat those. Your inability to discuss intellectually shows that you deserve to pay for expensive junk. It is literally peanut butter and chocolate. That can be made at home for a fraction of $57 and produce a tremendously more abundant pieces of ‘candy’ than a dozen.
You are a fool.
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hershey isnt real chocolate, they add a bitterent that why it taste like shit, i think its butyric acid.
Mmm, pukey
It doesn’t taste like shit, it tastes like spoiled milk
Uhhh the finest sour milk the free market can bare pls
the finest one is when it LOOKS like tofu.
Candy makerscapitalistsFTFY
Yeah it would be really nice if the media could distinguish a bit better between “actual expert at thing X that has done it for a long time and gives a shit” versus “people/corporations that started with tons on money and think they could end up with slightly more by misleading fans of X and building the infrastructure to efficiently enshittify it”
edit to add: I was supposed to quip at the end of my post that oh yeah, the media and journalism are “products” that are no different, and in fact worse. Look at who owns the big outlets. gross.
Another way of reminding us there is enshittification.
Nearly no one touches the chocolates at most supermarkets I went to. Far cry from when 40 years ago, workers from overseas would include chocolate bars in care packages.
That real cocoa are mostly from developing countries, not all are politically stable.
We have an inflation target now, they either raise prices or shrinkflate. Its much easier to shrinkflate.
I only eat the opposite type of chocolate, that being chocolate so dark its 90-97% coco content. I want my chocolate so natural, earthy, and bitter that it tastes similar to chocolate (that’s just my preference not that it makes me any better or worse than anyone else).
I’ll say it, it makes you better. (This is not biased, I just so happen to also have that same preference)
Dark chocolate is quite healthy, specifically coco is known to have healthy properties and the darker it is the less sugar.
True, but the amounts of dark chocolate I eat probably isn’t.
i usually prefer 85-100 if possible.
Bars?
Rookie numbers.
i do the same, its either 90-100% if im lucky to find 100% thats not part of the baking aisles.
I think real dark chocolate can actually be good for you. Shame I like the crap stuff. But not this crap, this shit tastes like you’ve talked up a bit of stomach bile while you were chewing.
Absolutely, its still an acquired taste but it can have health benefits (of course if you don’t like the taste then the health benefits probably aren’t worth it).
There is no corner they aren’t willing to cut.
I took two bites and had to spit it out
That’s how I reacted the first time I tasted Hershey’s chocolate.
Inb4: butyric acid
A somehow necessary ingredient in Hershey’s which lingers unpleasantly on the palate, otherwise known as a stomach acid which imbues your vomit with the unmistakeable flavor of vomit
Whyyyyyyyyy
Actually this goes back to the early days of Hershey’s. As part of their drive to produce affordable chocolate, their main formulation was developed around slightly spoiled milk, which has an acidic taste. That’s why all Hershey’s chocolate since the beginning of time has had that ‘vomit flavor’. Obviously they’re not allowed to use spoiled milk anymore, but they wanted to taste the same as it always has. So they add the acid as an ingredient to replicate the same flavor.
I know m&ms are Mars but those little bits of poison have also tasted like vomit for decades. I can’t even watch people choke those friggen things down. Smarties or death.
Smarties are nestlé, so it’s probably both.
Stomach acid is hydrochloric acid.
Gotta love capitalism
It’s not capitalism alone, it’s climate change also that is disrupting cocoa yields and makes prices go through the roof.
Climate change and capitalism are inseparable
Well, it would be an interesting thought experiment if instead of capitalism, socialism had won in 1989. I can tell you one thing from my own knowledge: at least the soviets didn’t give sh*** about the environment. Again: not defending capitalism here.
And before anybody snaps: i hate capitalism.
Sorry, I was listening to some upbeat music and before I could help myself, I looked down and my hands and realized it was too late. :(
Out-competing that bland old “real” chocolate with the superior product.
I don’t understand how they cant see that once we leave we leave. If you bite into that and hate it; its a cycle broken and we we unlikely to trust the product ever again.
It’s what happened with Bassets Winegums. Used to be my absolute favourite candy. Wife came back from the UK with a box,I opened it and the taste was… Different. Googled - turns out they changed the recipe after being purchased by some large conglomerate. I haven’t had one of their candies since 13 years ago. Fucking idiots.
I think we’re talking about very old brands that sell in big numbers because they’ve locked in grocery store shelf space and Halloween combo bag deals. It’s not like every sale is made after a careful taste test. Boomers with practically no tastes buds left buy these to hand out to trick or treaters because they remember them being good 40 years ago. Meanwhile the manufacturer can make millions just by shaving costs here and there. They aren’t going to keep growing sales. Their brand is mature and their market is saturated. All they can do to juice profits is cut costs.
I’m not justifying their way of thinking, just saying this is why they don’t behave as if every single candy must taste amazing. Their sales keep chugging without that. And if you aren’t growing profits, you’re already dead. So blame capitalism for the underlying reasons for why they can’t just leave well enough alone.
Well if they all do it, who are ya gonna run to?
i will have to give it up. it will be easier if its crap anyway. Learning to pay for what you actually want vrs you think you want are two different things.
The thing is, they won’t ALL do it. The big names will. Real chocolate will become more of a luxury thing you have less often (which, to be fair is probably a good thing) and the established brands might survive on some blind brand loyalty, or die out.
You’re using the future tense but this is pretty much the way it already is. No one considers hersheys good chocolate. It’s getting slightly worse and people are acting like some goddess has been kicked off her pedestal. Its more like a dead dog has just had one more fly land on it.
Not eating candy is always an option for adults with an ounce of self control.
So is eating a moderate amount of higher quality and more expensive chocolate. Its okay to enjoy a treat every once in a while
NO. We must all SUFFER. It’s what The Lord intended.
I should become a baptist pastor this is fun.
Well swish swish. Even those with an ounce of self control sometimes also allow themselves an ounce of enjoyment. You should try it.
I thought we were talking about a product that had become un-enjoyable a second ago. What enjoyment can an adult get out of chocolate flavored wax that they couldn’t get better somewhere else with a product they like, rather than one they used to like before it was made bad?
If all my chocolate options are actually brown wax, I don’t actually have any chocolate options.
The comment I replied to was generalized to all candy.
There are plenty of companies still selling actual chocolate, and since it’s chocolate and not chocolate-flavoured sweets I think it’ll just become smaller and/or more expensive. Which is fine.
I eat candy because it tastes good. If it all tastes like shit they why should I eat it?
I mean, you can make your own peanut butter cups…
If something turns to shit, you stop eating it and get something else I guess?
Trader Joe’s has giant Belgian chocolate bars, and far far better peanut butter cups with normal PB.
Ozempic!
The New Coke fiasco begs to differ.
The cynic in me imagines that they switch away from real chocolate, everyone will hate it, they’ll release a new product line that proclaims it uses real chocolate, but charge a premium for it, and people will buy it.
What premium am I paying for any Coke vs. other name brand soda?
I don’t understand the question.
Ah, okay, you’re putting two points together.
I think people came back to original Coke because they were looking for a specific flavor. When they had no reason to buy Coke, their options were limited - buy what they can get, or stop drinking colas. I kept on with Coke, but was happy when they changed back. As an older person now, I’d make a different choice.
As for quality vs. taste people will buy what they find acceptable for the price, with a minimum standard that is generally very individual. This has been the case for a very long time, and cocoa is pretty expensive. It isn’t surprising that some people will pay more and higher quantities of expensive ingredients lead to a more expensive product. Toss in inflation, and here we are.
That sound like this quarter’s problem, or even next quarter’s problem. In fact, that doesn’t even sound like the quarter after that’s problem.
Stupidity and short term money.
I’m sure they tested the new recipe on a sample audience long before they put it into mass production which informed them that the recipe change would positively impact their bottom line. Big companies don’t make enormous blunders which put them out of business. The social media tech companies we all hate are still around and have billions of users after all the crap they did. Why? Because all of the negative changes they made to their platforms were first tested on a sample of users and the sample kept using it. After all of the recipe downgrades and shrinkflation, you still see the products on the shelves. The only time you ever see an established brand suddenly vanish is when they’re bought out by private equity or they’re made obsolete by new technology.
Big companies do make big blunders, but there are forces at work in those upper echelons of the business world beyond market economics. I’m no sure the exact amount, but it seems that once someone or some group has accumulated over a certain amount of money, it takes consistent, sustained catastrophic mistakes to ever drop below that amount, like a sort of critical mass.
Companies that big don’t obey the same economic laws you and I do, and often don’t obey many laws at all for that matter, and they don’t often fail mainly because the system was set up by them in a way where they can’t fail, regardless of how monumentally they screw up.
When they do, their customers flee to one of their 3 competitors who are all run by guys that play golf together and collude, then later one of those companies does a big screw-up, the customers flee back to the first one.
All good points bit missing mine: brands vanish all the time. Companies too.
It’s just that short term money is valued, thats how we run today. It’s never about long term services and products.
That’s what happened to me and Oreo’s during the switch from soy oil to trans-fat-free oils. They were NASTY during that transition.
