Let’s just declare victory after losing!

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    Trump and Netanyahu have interests in the Middle East, so he thinks that if he wins the war, they will be able to colonize Iran.

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    If he doesn’t open it within a couple of months at most, the bulk of oil is going to start being traded in yuan (it’s already starting to happen) the gulf states are going to start liquidating their U.S. debt and the investments they’ve made across the global economy. The problem could spiral out of control really fast. The guy’s a total idiot, but I assume they’ve explained it to him with little cartoons or something and he’s finally understood that this time he can’t just walk away and claim he won

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    This could literally be mentioned in the historical annals of idiotic military blunders in history.

    Hey Republicans lurking on here, way to fucking go guys. You’re so fucking stupid that you collapsed our reputation in the world and now we’re a fucking laughing stock and because of your seemingly infinite level of abject idiocy, we now are legitimately in a national security crisis because of this wanton waste of our national defense assets.

    Great fucking job, morons. Take a fucking bow.

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      Some have said that when this war is over, it will be a different world.
      But that is not the whole truth, because it is already a different world. The image of the invincible US military is in ruins. This war with Iran can turn out to be nearly as disastrous for USA as the Russian war against Ukraine is to Russia.

      Zelenskyy has been on a charm tour to the Arab countries, and offered help to defend against the Iranian attacks, that USA has failed to defend against. And hopefully this will result in significant Arab investments in Ukrainian industries.
      These investments are most likely to be drawn from US investments.
      When the Ukraine war is over, Ukraine will very quickly become member of EU. And Ukraine will prosper fast with strong know how, and a strong will and help to rebuild after the war.
      As a member of EU, the enormous goodwill and prestige Ukraine has earned, will benefit EU too. And EU will be stronger than ever. While USA risk to lose the petro dollar because they fucked up in the middle east.

      USA is not losing the war in Iran, because it’s already lost. Unfortunately for USA, there is no graceful exit, so chances are that USA will escalate instead. But that will only make it worse for USA. With even more losses for USA in lives money and prestige.

      The big immediate winner is of course China, but EU might actually also win from this in the long run. And the sure loser is USA.
      Even Iran will benefit, the oil export sanctions against them have already been lifted, and they will keep control of the Hormuz strait.
      A new deal between USA and Iran will be on Iranian terms not American.

      Funny how this was predicted 2 years ago?

      China’s Nostradamus" Made 3 Trump Predictions In 2024. 2 Already Came True

      https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/who-is-jiang-xueqin-professor-behind-viral-trump-iran-prediction-11170722

      The headline is misleading though, because USA has already lost the war, so all 3 came true.
      I actually went back and watched the original video, and it’s spot on, there can be no doubt about the accuracy of his prediction.

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    “The full reopening of the Strait is something the Administration is working towards, but the core objectives of the operation have been clearly defined for the American people by the Commander in Chief,” Leavitt said.

    No the fuck they haven’t. He doesn’t even know himself other than whatever Israel said to do, otherwise they’ll release the videos of him raping children.

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    “Great progress has been made ​but, if for any reason a deal is ⁠not shortly reached, which it probably will be, ​and if the Hormuz Strait is not immediately ‘Open for ​Business,’ we will conclude our lovely ‘stay’ in Iran by blowing up and completely obliterating all of their Electric Generating Plants, Oil ​Wells and Kharg Island,” Trump wrote in a ​social media post.

    https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/trump-again-warns-iran-open-strait-hormuz-2026-03-30/

    Hell of a reaction to something that is not vital.

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    Somehow whatever he can’t do, or doesn’t benefit him, magically doesn’t matter! It’s like a superpower!

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      Ending any war isn’t their goal. We are the single largest arms manufacturer and seller on the planet. Our economy is war. This whole machine supports our pillaging and our governments priority is spending tax dollars for weapons from their clubs companies, then they turn around to the construction side of the club and give their friends contracts to repair everything they destroyed. Wait 20 years and rinse and repeat.

      Mass murder for profit is our country’s legacy.

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        Well, let’s not forget that the US was also fighting against Japan for much of that time. And the invasion of occupied France and of Italy was not on easy mode either.

        And the collapse of the Wehrmacht on the eastern front had as much to do with the Russian winter, failing supply chains due to non-USSR allied bombing of German factories and railways, and Hitler’s interference in military decisions as it did the accomplishments of the glorious Red Army, which for the first year or more of the invasion, was under-equipped and incompetently led. They learned and adapted, but Stalin’s misguided micromanagement and paranoia cost the USSR hundreds of thousands of soldiers’ and civilian lives.

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          Yeah, I’m not trying to glorify the Soviet Union.
          And yes, the USA did do a large part in bringing down Germany.
          But the narrative that America beat Germany and saved the world is incorrect.
          Their factory workers had a bigger part in determining the outcome than their soldiers.

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    Operation taco teusday is a great success. We all agree. Congrats everyone. Wheres that George Bush “Mission Accomplished!” banner? Now that we’ve won lets get our fearsome ICE agents to cover our military’s retreat. They altready have a full set of tactical military gear anyway, they just need some rubber rafts and a push into the strait to get the job done. They did so well at the airports, its time to unless their epic fury. No rules of engagement!

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    Leavitt signaled that Trump may achieve those objectives by mid-April. “The Pentagon has always stated four to six weeks as an estimated timeline for Operation Epic Fury,” Leavitt said in the White House briefing room. “We’re on day 30 today—you do the math.”

    My math says it’s taking y’all a lot longer than you fooled yourselves into thinking.

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    Are we getting an another historic “👍Mission accomplished👍” before midterms?

    Does US have a carrier big enough for Trumps ego and fat ass, or do they need to rename one and pain it “tacky fake gold”.

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    “but the core objectives of the operation have been clearly defined for the American people by the Commander in Chief,” Leavitt said.”

    What objectives!?