make them pay by constantly airing epstein related news, and investigation. this gets under trump skin quite often.
75% of Canadians supported Carney backing out of the trade deal. This is despite the fact that it will cause massive economic hardship to Canada to accept these tariffs.
Canadians are pissed, and are willing to accept economic hardship in order to stand up to a bully.
For decades Canada has just accepted whatever the US has demanded. For example, Canada has aligned its copyright laws to match US laws, which Hollywood was demanding. It has accepted that Canadians installing a Canadian-made app on their phones have to pay a 30% cut to an American company.
This was because the US, in exchange, was giving Canada free access to the American market. Canadian potash, lumber, energy, etc. could all be sold to the US without tariffs. Now Trump has reneged on that deal.
Carney has promised counter-tariffs, but I want to see a real trade war. Fuck the US copyright laws. Fuck the DMCA. Fuck American printers that won’t allow you to use your own ink. Fuck US tractors that can only be repaired by their US manufacturer. Canada should not only refuse to honour US intellectual property, I want Americans to travel to Canada to get their phones unlocked, to pay Canadians online for software to de-DRM their printers. What’s the downside? The US will counter with tariffs? Done that. The US will try to cut Canada’s access to Netflix off? We have bittorrent here.
Americans keep talking about this being a David vs Goliath fight, but for an ultra-religious country, they sure don’t seem to remember how that bible story ended.
Edited to add: In the early days of the USA it was a pirate nation, in many ways. There were Americans acting as privateers, basically pirates who were protected / supported by the US. The US also was infamous for ignoring copyrights on authors from Europe.
I don’t think it’s very likely that Canada is going to be brave enough to repeal the copyright laws that the US forced Canada into adopting. But, maybe, a 21st century “privateer” is possible. What if Carney walked over to the head of the RCMP and off the record put the word out that the RCMP was to stop cooperating with the FBI on any actions against Canadians accused of violating US IP laws. What if the government decriminalized laws against circumventing copyright protection.
For a long while before marijuana was legalized, it was decriminalized. It was pretty common to see people smoking pot on the street, which was technically illegal, and a cop would just walk by and ignore it. But, that was all done in an above-board way. I think it’s entirely possible something like that could be done through back channels with nothing written down.
The religious people here don’t actually read their book, they get told what to think.
The thing that really gets me is americans still believe they have something to offer Canadians. For heaven’s sake, america is now at 29 on the Transparency International ranking of Corrupt Countries. This list ranks countries on the basis of public bribery, misuse of public funds, abuse of public office for personal gain, nepotism in civil service, and state capture.
Think about that. The usa is more corrupt than the UAE. Why would anyone or any country want to drop to the level of the usa? There is nothing appealing about the usa anymore. The food is poison, the inequality is off the scale, the corruption allowing tech bros and billionaires to buy government, etc, etc, etc.
america has been sleep walking into the new slavery and cheer when they get beaten by another corrupt regime.
At 29? I’d expect it to be at like 234th place these days.
Smaller number is more corrupt
There’s a lot of really grim countries full of really cool people. That makes it worse that so many Americans are as mean and delusional as the bastards in charge.
iirc it was also pointed out that countries like the US and UK also tend to just legalise a lot of corrupt seeming shit which keeps them higher on the scale since its no longer technically corruption.
They must be punished! I need the entire world to put the Untied States on economic time out until it behaves
Get em, hosers
Traitor Danielle Smith from Alberta has been suspiciously quiet, since she is on the white houses payroll I expect her to break ranks pretty soon.
She’s already talking about how we need to get back to the negotiating table really soon.
Positive reinforcement works as well! Gotta give blue states something good to entice fence sitters. For instance, you could annex Minnesota.
Sincerely
A Minnesotan
Open invitations to provincehood should be extended to all states. Michigan specifically should be made aware that “it would be a shame if their nice auto plants exploded.”
New York is right here for the taking. Annex Niagra Falls!
I would move to NY immediately.
MN has better labor protections
I prefer being further east. And warmer, the last time I was in MN it was in the winter, and something stupid like 15F for the highest temp the entire time (thats about -9.5C for folks who use sensible units). The last time I was in upstate NY in the winter, it at least went above freezing.
The beer is better in MN. But I also can’t drink beer anymore (thanks gluten, gfy) so not being forced to watch others enjoy is also a benefit.
I will gladly shovel snow to avoid 100F+ summers
I have a seething hatred of being cold, and I’ve been all over the middle east in the summer (like 120F in the shade), so 100F summers I can do.
Why not both?
Slowly I turned…
step by step…
inch by inch…
Take cascadia too please!
Extend Cascadia to the Mexican border lol
Canada save us. We are poor and starving here rn! Send hookers and cocaine immediately!
I like the sound of that. Join the upstairs party, let’s have a chill night while they argue downstairs.
Cascadia stands ready!
Wait, please. With all due respect, and if you wouldn’t mind:
If alphabetical order is at all a consideration, I think Massachusetts should go first.
Don’t forget Maine will be before you (ง’̀-‘́)ง
Ok sounds good. First order of business:
🎵 The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit now of Canada
the rest of it
The spirit of the last letter being zed…
The spirit of Massachusetts is the spirit now of Canada,
The spirit of the red, white and red! 🎶
ya, but they’ll want the good hockey players.
Sorry, but the whole ship is going down.
ChatGPT, how can I repatriate as a Minnesotan?!
For Americans who may not know, when Trump said:
“…primarily Governor Carney, and his Flunky, Ford…”
He was referring to Prime Minister Carney, not a governor, and the Ontario Provincial Premier Doug Ford. They aren’t even in the same party. Doug Ford is kind of a Canadian Trump Lite who keeps winning elections despite only getting 30-40% of the vote. He’s just very loud and I wish journalists would stop quoting him.
Yes, in normal times Carney and Ford would barely be on speaking terms. Ford is hardly Carney’s flunky. But, this is a case of opponents joining together to fight an even bigger enemy.
Ford is an absolute piece of shit, yeah. He’s a conservative who has absolutely gutted our healthcare, education, social services and countless other things. He’s also currently in a war against bikes and has been getting bike lanes ripped out all over the province.
I hate him with a passion but he has at least been very offensive in asserting our sovereignty which is nice even if it’s completely shallow and done purely for his own self interests. Marlaine on the other hand though…
I know he’s a conservative piece of shit but I will never get the bike thing. Usually his issues are all about capitalism and private ownership and bullshit like that.
I don’t think it’s possible to convey how much Ford hates Toronto. He’s so mad that the WASPs never accepted him even after he acquired wealth.
The bike thing goes back to his brother’s time as mayor and his time on City Council. A mayor can’t ban bike lanes (especially without council support) but the provincial government sure can. They did cancel transit projects tho!
Bikes became a symbol of leftists.
It wouldn’t be vintage Don Cherry if it didn’t cause a buzz. “I’m wearing pinko for for all the pinkos out there that ride bicycles and everything,” Mr. Cherry said in a speech he delivered at Rob Ford’s inauguration on Tuesday, donning a bright pink suit. His shots at the left did not go unnoticed, and may add new life to a word that has perhaps lost some of its bite in recent years.
Simpler times 😅
Arcanepotato’s response nails most of it I think but my understanding is also that his commute (when he actually goes into the office) is primarily down a traffic-heavy street that happens to have a bike lane and he’s bitter seeing cyclists fly past him while he’s stuck in gridlock; so in spite of them, he’s dedicated himself to ripping that lane out along with all the others in this province
He’s very loud and definitely has a similar vibe, but he’s taken the opposite tack with America as all our other conservatives, and actually does get along really well with the Liberal government behind closed doors.
It might be because Rob, also mentioned in the tweet, OD’d, so now the smart brother is carrying on. There isn’t really an American equivalent. Churchill is an interesting British parallel, in both the good and bad ways.
He called him governor to continue the threat of making Canada an American state. And boy is America in a state.
Jesus Christ. This is the most highschool trade war I’ve ever witnessed.
Imagine the cost of living being tied to a schoolyard fight. Add it to Trump’s list of treasons.
Thanks for explaining that.
Ford has always been good at snappy one liners in the press. Trump Lite is right.
Carney can talk all he wants about balanced economic reciprocity, but you know Ford easily gets to the top of Trump’s media feed when he says shit like “then we’ll shut off the water and power!”
I know this is true and I hate it.
I hate to put this out in the universe but Ford is coming for the liberal leadership spot. Ever since he sassed Pierre at the beginning of the tarrifs I was like, ooooh he’s going to do it.
"Folks, you know me. I don’t get hung up on labels. I just want to get the job done. "
Sorry.
maybe that would finally push people to consolidate the center & left votes?
I can’t believe this even needs to be explained. But so many of them don’t bother to learn anything about us.
Spewing nonsense just makes Trump supporters want him even harder. All he has to do is stroke a nerve which is something he’s great at.
“The red states, we’re going to hit hard,” said Ford.
I mean, you can do it, and if the goal is to expend Canadian economic resources to get catharsis, or to score political points with fed-up Canadian voters, okay, but the deep red states aren’t going to turn blue, and what matters to the Republican Party is going to generally be control of political entities. Trump hasn’t generally adopted policies that are particularly fantastic for a lot of his rural, red-state supporters anyway.
The states that matter politically in terms of control of the federal Executive Branch (and the federal Senate) are purple. That’s where the US political parties stick their resources when they fight with each other, and if the aim is to alter US political outcomes via economic pressure—assuming that that is viable—that’s where pressure would have the largest effect.
For the House, sub-state-level electoral districts matter, and purple districts would matter, but the Democratic Party is likely to get control of the House in the upcoming midterms, in any event.
Affecting state legislature control, one would look for purple state-level districts. That would have limited direct effect on US foreign policy, though. It could have subtle, long-term effects, in that control of states can affect state-level policies that affect the federal House, gerrymandering of federal districts for the House, stuff like that. The impact is pretty indirect, though.
That was Ford. He doesn’t actually decide any of it, except, I guess, liquor sales in his province of Ontario. It may very well be campaigning on his part.
The actual strategy, per the federal minister, is to try and offset the lost business for industries effected by removing competing American imports, and to maintain the effort until Trump’s term ends (and further if necessary).
Targeting red states was the what we did last time, when it was less serious, and pressure from whatever donor or congressmen really mattered. Don’t worry, we watch the magic wall on CNN as well.
He does have a bit more wiggle room than buying or not buying liquor. He can assert pressure through some of the manufacturing in Ontario and energy exports. Nothing equivalent to what can happen at the federal level, but more than not buying liquor
Canada will always have an ally in the West Coast.
Canada understanding the nuances, we appreciate you Canada.
dear mr. poopy pants:
fuck off.
sorry. we’re canadian. let me rephrase that, eh?
kindly fuck off.
we’ll talk to the next guy or gal in charge.
from the great white north,
canadaelbows up!
Should only be part of strategy. Should give strong investment/production ultimatums to specific large US companies that sell to Canadians. Failure to comply with ultimatums results in much better value to Canadians from Chinese alternatives.
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