• Arcanepotato@crazypeople.online
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    11 hours ago

    Wow I hate myself so much but maybe someone reading this foolishness of mine can see how easily accessible municipal information is and that will help them in the future.

    Doug Ford Senior was MPP for Etobicoke Humber, 95-99. Voters in 2010 thought they were voting him into city council because of weak signage rules that were subsequently changed after this election, specifically because of this ruse.

    • The 2011 amendment to Chapter 629 was about advertising on the TTC (public transit).
    • The 2017 amendment to Chapter 629 had a few changes but nothing related to names. It added the concept of election signs that were “erected and displayed without the authorization, direction or involvement of a candidate”. I didn’t compare the 2011 and 2017 versions to get the specifics about changes to sections about where signs could be posted so I don’t know if there were material changes or they were just updating the language to include the new definitions. The timing for when signs could be displayed changed. Here is an article about the changes

    The only rule about names in the current bylaw is that the name must be clearly visible and readable. Using just “FORD” is permissible.

    I do remember the Fords getting in to trouble about their signs (and I may have called bylaw a few times myself…) but in 2014 it was mostly about where they were placed in.

    In 2010 specifically Rob Ford was found to have broken spending rules related to his signs. , including loans from DECO. Maybe Doug did shit too but I can’t find anything.

    Anyways, I wonder if you are thinking about Rob’s first successful run in 2000? His dad was still alive at the time unlike in 2010. Doug Sr wasn’t able to run in the 1999 election because the ridings got consolidated and someone else got the party nomination. Doug Sr was MP until June 1999 and the municipal election where Rob was elected Councilor was October 2000 so I could better understand if there were accusations about fooling voters at that time. Rob lost a 1997 election so it wasn’t exactly like he came out of no where, but still.

    Or maybe the musical chairs of the 2014 election?

    • Rob registered to run as mayor, ended up running as councilor in Ward 2 as a result of his cancer diagnosis.
    • Michael Ford was running for councilor but switched to school board trustee so he wasn’t running against Rob
    • I don’t think Doug Jr was registered until he registered to run for mayor in his brothers place. He was the incumbent in Ward 2, but I guess the idea was for Michael to take over.

    That makes more sense with the focus on signage. Jonathan Kay touched on that in an article. Lol yes, that Jonathan Kay.

    Rob’s “Ford”-branded banners, T-shirts, bumper stickers and podium signs — those were all easily co-opted by Doug. And last week, more than 10,000 people showed up at “Ford Fest” — they didn’t have to change that name either — where they pledged their generic support for “Ford Nation” in the October 27 vote. No fewer than three Fords are up for election — Doug for Mayor, Rob for City Councillor and “Mikey” for school trustee.

    [Doug Ford] frequently mentions the many sports teams that the Ford family business, Deco Labels and Tags, has sponsored over the years. Funny how you did the exact same thing. hmm.

    Yeah, because I lived there and saw the logo everywhere? I don’t understand what you are implying? You make it sound like I am defending him for some reason which is really odd to me? I brought it up because you said that “It’s not clear what Deco even was” and I guess sure having a factory and being involved in the community doesn’t have anything to do with what the business was but it certainly wasn’t trying to fly under the radar.

    I didn’t say these people were upstanding citizens. I just think some of the info you posted is factually incorrect, and replied with corrections. If you think my facts are wrong I’m happy to hash that out but otherwise I don’t know what you are looking for from me. I gotta stop wasting my time on unsourced statements.