An excellent suggestion was made to concentrate Iran conversation and posting to this mega thread. Please keep as much as you can here so that the main feed isn’t overburdened by Iran news.
Trump said that this is going to last about four weeks. So he’s really going with “this will all be over by Easter” again like he did with Covid during his first term?
Yeah, giving a prognosis on the duration of a war is usually not the best idea.
Sincerely, a Russian. We’ve been stuck in our oh so glorious three day war for over four years now.
I am shocked that the FIFA Peace Prize winner and chairman of the Board of Peace has decided to launch this Special Military Operation. Totally shocked.
FIFA peace prize in shambles, board of peace blown to pieces.
So basically the plan is to keep air striking whatever administration fills the power vacuum until they get one they like?
https://lemmy.world/post/43777365
I’m guessing nukes.
Breaking the nuclear taboo on a country that’s exhausted its ability to fight back seems like it would be buried somewhere in the Project 2025 fine print.
This is a good development (creating a megathread) - good for user engagement and retention here.
As someone who doesn’t enjoy megathreads, is it just because people don’t want to see multiple articles in their feed? I’ve seen megathreads
- get abused by mods (mass deletion of anything even loosely related),
- user engagement is buried (100 comments in 10 different articles is better than just 500 comments in a megathread to me),
- and it’s harder to see updates/new happenings without constantly checking back in for edits.
Mod megathread’s also seems like an overreach of moderator’s role. They are now in the driver seat of a pinned, mega popular post and it goes to their head (I’ve been in communities before where they just start blanketing megathreads for anything that’s gaining traction and squash even legitimate posts). They now also have added workload onto themselves by having to curate even further what gets posted at their discretion (and competing with their own post).
Megathreads on Reddit sucked because they were truly mega, but in the olden days of forums and smaller communities you’d get hundreds, maybe thousands of people participating. A kilothread. It’s a good chance to get to know people on a username basis and it’s a good space to have discussions that would just be too fragmented on separate posts
I think the advantage is that it reads partly as a FAQ, partly as a place to read whatever commentary on the situation people seem to agree with. It’s a place where people can discuss and ask questions more generally. Other threads tend to be more about specific breaking news and developments, maybe missing the bigger picture.
They have their place, like if updates on singular events but multi day things make it just feel buried.
Especially if most comments are just from the beginning
This is a good development (creating a megathread) -
It really depends, also a bit of an experiment. There are is a plusside and downside imo. Until now, with 4k- 8k users it wasn’t necessariy and most users didn’t like it afaik. It creates also some ambiguity for mods & users, as what and how to post , engage and react and so. We’ll see how it goes.
When Russia lost planes to friendly fire, we made fun of them. It’s been 2 days and I think we’ve lost more planes to friendly fire than Russia has in years.
FWIW Russia shot themselves, so it’s not quite the same.
If the US had shot its own jets down … that’d be funny.
I have heard nothing about this.
Kuwait shot down 3 US fighters apparantly.
Is there anyone that can help an out of the loop fellow such as myself? I know of the war but I have no idea how and why it started. I thought Israel was all over palestine as of late. And now everyone in the area and the USA are involved?
Who benefits from Trump’s war in Iran? The answer is disturbingly clear.
Who wants Iran bombed off the map, for their own reasons? Who are their rivals and enemies? Perennially, the Gulf Arab states, countries like Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar.
You know, Qatar. The country that just gave Donald Trump a really, really nice $400 milion-dollar plane, a gilded flying palace for his own use both during his presidency and after?
And you remember the United Arab Emirates, recently structuring a totally pointless crypto financial transaction so that $2 billion of it was stuffed into the Trump family’s otherwise worthless brand-new crypto financial firm?
And you remember the Saudis who stuffed $2 billion into the pockets of Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner just as Trump’s first term in office came to a close? Enough people were alarmed about that they actually bothered to come up with an excuse for what made it OK. They said, don’t worry, Jared will never again work for the U.S. government; he’s never coming back to Washington, so we’ll never have to worry about having someone involved in U.S. policy who has also been given billions of dollars by Saudi Arabia.
Well, who was leading the negotiations on behalf of the United States with Iran before we just started this war with them? I mean, Secretary of State Marco Rubio was in St. Kitts and Nevis. It wasn’t him. It was Jared Kushner, who was recently paid billions of dollars by Iran’s chief rival, sitting alongside Trump’s tiny real estate friend, Steve Witkoff, whose son recently sought to improve his family fortunes by going to Qatar to seek money from its sovereign wealth fund.
This is the second time I’ve seen nevis and kitts mentioned this week.
Some guy who regularly shits his pants raped kids with a guy that worked for mossad. He and/or mossad had that guy murdered a couple years ago. People started asking too many uncomfortable questions recently so this was the best course of action.
The Mossad informant obviously returned all of the blackmail on Trump to them. Must be pretty bad if they can make him do a war so easily.
Iran has been a headache for a long time. Much like in America and Israel, violent religious fundamentalists took control over society and installed a reign of terror.
This has of course been bad for the Iranians, but America of course could not care less about that. However, Iran has been a major concern for Israel, as they are an unreliable an aggressive neighbour. Again, don’t let the irony get lost on you. The threat of Iran maybe managing to develop nukes has been a particularly salient issue, and perhaps one of the driving forces behind Israel getting its own nukes decades ago.
In short, Israel just cannot feel safe with the current rule in Iran. Or so the Israeli far right has insisted for decades, anyways. Keeping this fear high on the agenda has been key to winning elections and to get in place the far right genocidal lunatics currently in the Israeli government. Along with the fear of Palestinians of course.
The US is of course loyal allies of Israel as their one true friend in a region full of oil. The Saudis are of course also good friends whenever they are not actively attacking America and killing civilians or journalists, but they are not quite as good at lobbying. So American interests and Israeli interests are pretty much the same, and the Iranian regime has been the face of evil for decades. Conveniently they are also super evil, so it’s easy to make propaganda.
Recently the Iranian regime has murdered a bunch of civilians who protest the regime. The US and Israel wouldn’t usually care about dead civilians in the middle east - they certainly wouldn’t oppose it at least - but right now it provides a convenient excuse to bomb the fuck out of Iran. Trump needs this because he needs support before the upcoming election- a successful impeachment might allow the opposition to grow teeth, and if they do he could end up locked away for life.
Netanyahu is in even deeper ship than Trump, with corruption charges at home and crimes against humanity abroad. Now that his genocide in Palestine is getting old he needs something new to keep him in power.
Iran responds to attack by sending missiles towards American military bases in the area. American military bases are located in the surrounding countries, which is why you see newspaper headlines making out as if Iran is launching a war on every country in the regioun. They’re not, they’re just trying to strike back against America and Israel. Just like the Americans and Israelis they suck at hitting military targets and often end up hitting civilian ones instead.
Israel will never feel safe until they have annexed, conquered or vassalized all their neighbors
All fascists need a good enemy, obliviate one and you have to move on to the next. The only end game to this bullshit is total apocalypse. Which of course is what the evangelical Christian supporters of Israel has been cheering for all along.
Rome did it first: becoming a war-led society while fighting for their survival, then erasing the only other superpower of the time, then conquering each and every land and people around the Mediterranean sea, while pretending that they were defending themselves or their allies. Took a millenia to collapse.
Sounds so much like the US
The US and Israel wouldn’t usually care about dead Arabs
Iranians aren’t Arabs.
Oops, obvisouly, was thinking about the Muslim world and getting terms mixed. Fixed.
Trump is desperate to keep the Epstein files out of the spot light so he is doing anything to keep attention elsewhere. As soon as the Winter Olympics stopped distracting people, the orange pedophile launch the USA into war.
On the other part, Netanyahu needs to keep Israel in war so his own corruption trials do not catch up to him… with Palestine raised to the ground, Iran is the next target
“As soon as the Winter Olympics stopped distracting people, the orange pedophile launch the USA into war.”
Hey, Putin did the exact same thing after Sochi! Remember?
From my perspective, it seems like Israel knows what they have with Trump; a willing patsy who will enact their agenda, as long as they stroke his ego. So you have US-Iran talks making some level of headway, then Netanyahu whispering in his ear about how this makes him look week on terror, goading the US into action. And because Trump is Trump, he’s going to do what he thinks makes him look good and earns him and his billionaire friends money, which is wartime. So while the war itself seems pretty unpopular domestically across most political spectrum, this allows him to fulfill his own vain purposes by Israel continuing to stroke his ego, he gets to feel like the big heroic man he wishes he was by saving the world in his mind, and his echo chamber cabinet won’t go against him, so everyone says this is the right thing to do.
And then also what everyone else says; this distracts from Epstein Files, this is part of his lead-in to trying to take over the midterms and reduce election viability through restricting mail in and electronic voting (were gonna have 2 million people vote in a single precinct in New York, LA, Chicago, etc) while rural red districts breeze on through? It’s all a ploy to keep GOP in power. It’s the most thinly veiled coup ever, and half the nation is eating it up simply because it’s “their guy”.
Here’s a wrbinar that may help
I hope no one on Lemmy is so dense as to believe that Iran is better with american bombs
Israel must have real dirt on Trump to make him bomb them when they were never a threat to us, just local to Israel
My Conspiracy is that trump is conspiring with the Global pedophilic oil elite to control the bulk of the world’s oil supply so that he can increase prices and profits for them. Pissrael is happy because they get their additional genocide
Bigger picture… US and China are going to war 2027-2028 (at least that’s what everything intelligence suggest for Taiwan).
Iran and Venezuela supplied China with large quantities of oil, removing them from the picture now means China is much easier to choke for Oil needs ending the war quicker.
That also makes senss. Its a win win win really for trump AND all american politicians. Thats why, almost all critique about the terrorist attacks on Iran are about process. “Uhhh he didnt get the correct stamp to do this” and not about the material reality of this move
Plus the current hardware gets tested.
