• bitteroldcoot@piefed.social
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    9 hours ago

    Old military saying, tactics win battles, logistics wins wars.

    General Omar Bradley: Frequently credited with the variation, “Amateurs talk strategy and tactics. Professionals talk logistics.”

    Hegseth is an amateur. This failure is his. He spent all his time attacking woke and not providing the logistical support needed to keep the troops in the field.

    And no, i don’t agree with trumps attack on Iran. But this has been a cluster fuck that didn’t have to happen. Trump and Hegseth purged all the professionals and replaced them with sycophants.

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      2 hours ago

      As always, the soldiers pay the price in the end. This horrible morale will not improve things either. I feel sorry for those kids that depend on these yahoos to be safe, their families too.

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        I worked as a civilian for the army for 30 years. So yes, don’t enlist. They use you up then discard you like soiled toilet paper. It’s always kind of been that way.

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          I’m married to a Navy veteran I know :( they recruited him at 17, that shouldn’t be allowed imo, manipulating little kids to feed the meat grinder.

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            If you survive intact and make it to retirement, or just transition to civil servant, it’s one of the best pension plans available.

            But it’s the surviving part that’s tough. I was GS and crawled away on my hands and knees after reaching my 30 years. I really wondered if i would make it the last couple of years. So glad to be out.

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      Hegseth is an amateur.

      Not even an amateur, he’s a racist, misogynist wanker, who doesn’t talk strategy or tactics, because he doesn’t know a fucking thing about either. Instead, he talks pseudoscience about testosterone levels, obsesses about facial-hair regulations, and blocks promotions of women and Black men to senior ranks.

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      Yep that’s a whole other element that isn’t talked about enough:

      Trump and Hegseth executed what I can only describe as a ‘Stalin-esque’ purge of officers, prior to this all starting.

      Now they weren’t literally executed or sent to gulags, but they’re not part of the military anymore.

      … this cripples your military’s ability to do stuff that you, beforehand, probably would have just taken for granted as things that it can do. The kind of stuff that you normally don’t notice, because you only notice it when it isn’t being done correctly.

      Fucking idiots.

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      9 hours ago

      This Hegseth guy doesn’t seem to think of either.

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        Because that makes Trump and Hegseth look bad. Can’t have that.

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        Even more so, they did not cover how defenseless the bases were. This might shock many but Trump and Kegbreath started a war with Iran without first allowing the military to prepare. I swear, I’m not lying.

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          Yeah they…

          ‘We’ lost a THAAD radar array on I think literally day one.

          Costs like a billion dollars, or two billion, or something, fucking cost plus accounting, I don’t know!

          (If you say an M1A2 Abrams costs approximately $20 million, well then thats 50 to 100 Abrams… or, roughly 1 to 2 entire Combined Arms Battalions)

          Thats the thing that tells ‘our’ missle defense/interceptor missles ‘oi bruv you got incoming’, where to go, when to fire, which THAAD interceptor launching platform in what location should fire at which incoming.

          Kind of an insanely huge deal.

          The ‘Golden Dome’ got its eyes and brain obliterated, on day one.

          So… ‘our’ entire missle defense strategy at that point was 'oh fuck, scramble together everything that can /maybe/ hit some of the shit THAAD is designed to hit, and also go to South Korea and dismantle their THAAD system so we can repair the one Iran blew up.

          Trying to analogize this… Imagine its the Battle of Britain, and Germany manages to throw V1s at every single radar site in the UK, and wholly destroy them, on day one.

          Its roughly that bad.

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        People just don’t pay attention…

        Iran launching attacks on allied bases were all over the news. We don’t resupply ships by loading up what they need on a boat in Virginia then a month later it shows up, they get shipments from the closest bases.

        So when Iran started blowing up all the bases around Iran, it meant none of the ships around Iran would be resupplied.

        That’s literally why they did it, launching a direct attack would still be an escalation, so they kneecpped fleet operations around the strait and just waited out the blockade…

        People miss a lot more obvious shit these days, but it’s still disappointing.

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          People miss a lot more obvious shit these days, but it’s still disappointing.

          It doesn’t help that there’s just an onslaught of fucked up news coming out of the USA which makes it all more difficult to keep up with. “Flood the zone with shit” is working well and the US barely has any real journalism left to counter it. I actually find CBC here in Canada covers what’s going on better than any news corp in the country it reports on which is funny in a depressing way

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            No, it’s not just that.

            Anyone that put two seconds of thought into “why is Iran only attacking US allied bases” would have realized it’s to cripple supply lines so the blockade couldn’t be maintained, this has been a tactic longer than recorded history.

            It’s not a problem with “the media” because most people don’t even interact with it, and when they do it’s just headlines.

            The problem is societal and it’s that no one uses critical thinking. It should be an automatic background process running the whole time we’re awake, but it doesn’t.

            For older generations it’s lead poisoning coming home to roost, for younger generations it’s that they were never taught critical thinking. But even the small slice in the middle, we’ve got a clock till our (lesser) lead poisoning really starts kicking in and is compounded by normal aging.

            We’re fucked, but that just makes it all the more important we fix education asap to mitigate the damage. Even tho it’ll take 12 years before it really even starts to pay off, and then much longer till that generation becomes a large voting demographic.

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              It was also to tell neighbours that hosting a US base put them at risk, rather than be a security benefit.

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                Those neighbors, at least Kuwait, the Emirates and Saudi Arabia, were right alongside the Israelis in lobbying Trump to start the war. Then they thought they could stand idly by and cash in on the carnage while other people did the killing and dying. And they’ve also had a long history of murdering their indigenous Shi’a populations, and funding or waging wars to kill them elsewhere, such as in Yemen.

                So this sounds like chickens coming home to roost.

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          Didn’t the Pentagon basically close its press offices? Might be part of the issue.

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            Bruh, it’s not secret information…

            It’s just billionaire owned media didn’t talk about it.

            This is from NPR 4 months ago, our military was acting like refugees from the jump from Bahrain. Fucking Bahrain, the literally military hub for that region.

            We got waxed immediately and it was openly said, they just counted on people not connecting two dots to form a line.

            On the opening day of the war, the base, known as Naval Support Activity (NSA) Bahrain, was struck multiple times. Posts on social media showed a ballistic missile and Iranian drones slamming into the base. Satellite imagery from the company Planet shows that at least seven buildings in and around the base were struck between Feb. 28 and March 6.

            In response to an NPR request, a Navy spokesman acknowledged that 1,500 sailors, their families and several hundred pets were relocated back to the U.S. from NSA Bahrain.

            And:

            Sailors have been arriving in Norfolk, Va., home to the world’s biggest naval base, since at least the middle of March. Several groups that provide aid to military personnel say that the sailors arrived with very little. A call went out to community groups, asking for basic supplies like hygiene products.

            “The base was asking for donations of toiletries and different things for the sailors coming back, because they were coming back with nothing,” said Derrick Johnson, commander of American Legion Post 327 in Norfolk.

            The post hosted a spaghetti dinner for some of the sailors, said Keith Shanesy, one of the post’s vice commanders.

            "They literally told them, ‘Get what you can get in the backpack. You’ve got to go,’" he said. “They came with no uniforms, nothing. The three we met first, they came with the clothes on their back, what they could fit in that backpack.”

            https://www.npr.org/2026/04/03/nx-s1-5770491/evacuation-bahrain-norfolk-troops

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          5 hours ago

          Weird, maybe is your client? I definitely do on Jerboa and Boost mobile apps. I haven’t checked web but I’d be amazed if it wasn’t there

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    9 hours ago

    That would be treason under any other circumstances, before things went all trumpily weird.

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    8 hours ago

    Which moron doesn’t protect their supply routes? It’s the whole interdiction doctrine.

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    9 hours ago

    But how could the chlamydia pressy know that a mediocre, alcoholic, racist TV host would be bad at running the military?!