• jimerson@lemmy.world
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    3 hours ago

    I love my razr 2024, but I’ve been patiently waiting for graphene to support a decent non-google phone. Looks like I’m about to get the best of both worlds!

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      4 hours ago

      I will take any trash at this point, considering to hell hole that the smartphone market is now.

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      Yeah that’s a worry eh. My phone I have now has a phenomenal camera. It’s the main reason I bought it.

      I’m quite happy to have zero AI integration and pay a premium for an amazing camera.

      I want this to be great but I worry they are going to have to make too many compromises AND it will still be expensive.

      This is obviously all conjecture so I’m looking forward to seeing the specs

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    That’s great, if I was going to pick a phone brand for Graphene it would be Motorola.

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        I really, really miss the fingerprint scanner navigation from my Moto G5s Plus. Unfortunately, nowadays phones have minimal bezels, so it’s not possible.
        And yes, I would prefer bezels and 16:9 screen. It’s much easier to hold it that way. Or at least enough to get rid of cut-outs and curved corners. Give me all my pixels!

        But also there was volume button music control, so I could skip songs without using the screen. Very useful at night, but also when just having the phone in a pocket.
        Tap to adjust volume, hold to skip.

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      5 hours ago

      In my experience, they have always been one of the less painful custom rom experiences, but for some reason, overlooked by the community

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      8 hours ago

      I’ve had a couple and always installef LineageOS. A custom ROM with the ability to keep the bootloader locked will be nice

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      It’s been my main brand for a while now. Pretty good hardware with very few changes to base android. There are not many options in my country so from what’s available, Motorola is by far the best choice.

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      Funny, my carrier just offered a free phone upgrade and I ordered a Motorola at random because I was growing increasingly annoyed by my Samsung. Luck was with me!

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    10 hours ago

    I’ve had a few moto phones and one edge, in general I was quite happy with them. Motorola doesn’t change the Android UI too much and only adds a few convenience functions.

    Price / value ratio is also pretty good.

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    9 hours ago

    Lenovo is walking on the razor’s edge. They are still a chinese company and can’t help themselves. My G23 had Lenovo’s adware instaled after a version upgrade, kept pushing for Live Lock Screens. Had to uninstall the crap on the user through adb, just disabling it didn’t work.

    You have to think and view this deal as GrapheneOS with Lenovo, not with Motorola.

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        7 hours ago

        Who cares? The people that aren’t technically adept and yet want out of Apple/Android.

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          Installing graphene is requires you to plug your phone into your laptop running google chrome and:

          1. Visit a web page
          2. Click three buttons
          3. Click a setting in the settings menu on your phone
          4. Restart your phone

          If you can’t do that then you’re already incapable of operating a phone, and therefore its a moot point.

          If the issue is you cant find the information then your skill issue isn’t with tech its with using a search engine.

          Stop infantalizing people, and maybe google and apple wont be able to use the widespread expectance of instant convenience to normalize corporate malware like they have for the past 15 years.

          I’m so sick of people acting like reading a web page and clicking through an install wizard requires a fucking C.S. degree. Its both insulting to the average user, and those with more knowledge.

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            Ah the elitist attitude. “It’s easy for me do then it’s easy for everyone” “if you can’t do it then there’s something wrong with you”

            Which ignores the fact that way too many apps and websites have their interfaces totally fucked up. So because of that many people just get really confused and then can’t figure it out.

            Yeah maybe graphene might be different. But that is not the point. The point is most sites and apps are almost unusable. So when you tell someone to change their o/s they get the idea that it’s impossible and don’t look. So instead of pulling a crappy attitude try looking at it from the other side.

            Either way. Have a nice day. Bye.

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              Yeah maybe graphene might be different. But that is not the point. The point is most sites and apps are almost unusable. So when you tell someone to change their o/s they get the idea that it’s impossible and don’t look.

              Yes it absolutely is and this is literally the problem I’m pointing out.

              When you say its too hard it implies its because its difficult, which means it needs to be made easy.

              Your issue is not educational, nor accessibility. Its that you don’t want to put fucking effort in. You want it to be done for you.

              That’s it. That’s literally what I’ve been trying to get out of you fucks forever. That its not how hard something is. Its that you need it spoon fed.

              You should feel shame for that.

              Everyone who expects that should.

              You’re an adult, you should be able to put effort into the machines that run your daily life.

              Elitism means I think I’m better than you because I’m smarter, I don’t. I think you’re being a lazy fuck, and are capable of doing basic things, but don’t want to, its right here in your comment:

              they don’t look

              You’re capable, you just don’t.

              This is like bitching you didn’t know your car needed gas or an oil change, then blaming it on the people who knew.

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              It tells you on the page which one to click, what’s the issue?

              This is like getting mad and calling cars bullshit because you didn’t know to put fucking gas in your car.

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                  They’re not dumb they’re just propagandized into being lazy.

                  Big tech companies convinced everyone their computers where magic and not machines they can understand if they put the effort into.

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      I installed LineageOS on my Motorola. No adware to be seen. With an entirely separate ROM I dont see how it could be a problem

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    Here’s hoping they’ve got a larger version of phone for whatever they end up with. The price gap for the pixel 9 XL (i got big hands, i couldn’t type reliably on a base model size) was kinda nuts