First fucking words of that trash article :
" … France plans to send letter … "Yeah just remove all the insane ppl in power around the world and we’ll hump like dogs
I doubt it. Much of the same would happen with sane people in power.
The demographic transition:
-
means longer life spans (which means that older people use resources which would be used by new generations in a pre-transition society)
-
means lower infant mortality (which means that people don’t need to reproduce a lot, as their children have good chances of surviving childhood)
Whatever additional processes are in play, likely aren’t amenable to change either.
- people have an increased tendency to have children after achieving economic certainty
Result: some never achieve it, some achieve it when less fertile or infertile, some when their own parents already need care.
- people have an increased tendency for solitary lifestyle
Result: people live separately from their parents more often, and expect it as a criterion of normal life, as a result of which grandparents are less available to help with child care.
- people have better education about their fertility
Result: children aren’t had accidentally.
Changing some politicians seems unlikely to change that, unless a new social agreement forms. What that agreement might be, I don’t know. I speculate it could be “considwe having children before building a career, to enable this, very strong welfare guarantees are offered to parents raising kids”.
-
Give us a reason to want to bring kids into this world
Yeah, as soon as there’s dramatic climate action, representative just government, and universal healthcare + pre-K!
Governments spent decades pushing for delaying children and get higher education, promote persuing careers, moving to child unfriendly cities for high paying jobs so everybody can maximize their consumion of goods so the economy grow, and are now shocked when that all means less children.
No shit. The rise of Christo-fascism has been a direct contributor to not wanting more kids.
So the French government can do it but when I go out and tell people to get fucked, it’s a problem.
She emphasised that the role of politicians is “not to dictate whether or not to have children”, but to educate women further on fertility and remind them of the option to freeze eggs.
Is it even that, though?
A lot of people are becoming more pessimistic and don’t see any logic or reason to having babies. And it’s not just in France, it’s all around the world. I’m a millennial and I’ve been pessimistic since the 80s (😎) when the world wasn’t as cooked as it is now. I can imagine how the newer generations are feeling these days. Future? Hopes? Dreams? They’re going fast down the drain.
In Matthew McConaughey’s voice:
I was doomscrolling before there was scrolling.
Hehehe
10 years ago I was pretty fringe for being childfree. Today more and more people are accepting it for themselves or are not sure its even worth the time and effort, even if they wanted a kid
It’s kind of sad for people who truly want kids but it’s not feasible for them to have any. What a world.
We spent 100 years engineering the world to decrease birth rates and punish people for having children “they cannot afford”, then immiserate the majority of people, eliminate any kind of opportunity to enjoy life, community, family, or recreation without spending ungodly amounts of money to enjoy simple human pleasures that have been part of being human for hundreds of thousands of years, work them relentlessly 24/7/365 (or as close as we permit them) for the sake of business efficiency, destroy the environment so survival itself becomes dependent on the business cycle, and we wonder why no one wants to raise a child in this environment?
Honestly, we have spent a century ruthlessly punishing people for even thinking of making a marginally irrational decision and then wonder why they won’t indulge in an objectively irrational activity for the emotional fulfillment.
I’d have upvoted anyway, great comment, but you had me at
immiserate
What a perfect word.
The decline in birth rates is perfectly solveable by reducing wealth inequality, overwork, and long term pessimism about the direction the world is headed. They just don’t want to do that. The hoarding class is defined only by two things: demanding that their own wealth doesn’t just grow, but grows faster than it used to, and making sure responsibility and consequences are someone else’s problem.
Lol.
The ones who want to do it will do it regardless (look at the fertility rates of poor immigrants), those who don’t want to won’t be convinced by a letter from the government, IMO.
fertility rates of poor immigrants
For the 1st generation. The 2nd is only slightly higher, and the fertilty for the 3th generation is practically the same as the native population as they have adapt to the cultural and social norms in the new country.
Certainly. Because, like I’ve said before, ideology is what’s behind fertility rates in the West. 🤷
yup. that is about the right time to get em. so glad I went to to much school and changed careers because if I had a steady enough job at like 26 I might have made a big mistake.
Reasons not to have kids.
Ai taking jobs
Income not keeping up with cost of living
Healthcare costs(in some countries)
Reasons not to have kids:
Not wanting kids.
Ecological collapse leading to food scarcity and water wars
Women who think the guy should do everything and they can just be a passenger princess, which makes finding a good lady that much harder.
Uhhh I think you have some unresolved issues there though
Don’t feed the troll. Just look at the username andrewta(te)
I love how everyone always assumes what the ta stands for. And almost everyone gets it wrong.
