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    This article inspired me to check and Teddy Boy Greg (the disgruntled white power barber with a ton of ridiculous facial tattoos who moved to Russia to get away from what he called “degenerates”) has recently died in Ukraine

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    I’m entirely in favor of a program that promotes the voluntary exit of xenophobic reactionary cunts from the US, as long as we can come up with some way to not let them return after it inevitably all goes to shit for them.

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    Ilja Belobragin, general managing partner at Move To Russia, a company which helps foreigners relocate to Russia, says something he frequently hears from his clients is that they “don’t recognise the community around me anymore”.

    Some prospective migrants complain about high immigration in their own countries or what they see as declining living standards, he says.

    Let’s break this down: The people say they “don’t recognise the community around [them] anymore” because of “high immigration”, so they decide to become an immigrant surrounded by people of a different nationality than them.

    As I see it, this is for one specific reason only: I don’t believe it’s the different cultural values from immigration that bothers them (they are literally moving into a wholly foreign culture; although I’m sure the Orthodox church gives some perverse appeal), but I believe they are bothered by ethnicity/skin colour. I believe these people are racists more than they are xenophobes.

    I believe, for these people, Russia is a better alternative only because they have a certain perception of white-skinned Russians. I don’t think these people are aware of places like Tuva, or Yakutia, or Chechnya - and I don’t think they would ever visit those places. To say their quiet part out loud, I think these “conservatives” are just people who are white supremacists, moving because it’s a “white country” in their eyes, and thinking all white people have some shared essence. This is how they can justify to themselves being a foreigner in a foreign land. How else could they justify it to themselves?

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        Someone who is homophobic has two choices:

        1. Leave behind everything you own and know to go live as an immigrant in a foreign country where you don’t speak the language or understand the customs.
        2. Don’t have gay sex.

        Gay sex must be really good.

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        Russia’s been running a massive propaganda campaign in Europe and the US for more than a decade. Including slandering the LGBT and trying to associate them with illegal activities, promoting Christian orthodoxy over atheism, depicting Europe as degenerate and failing, demonizing immigrants and trying to frame them as criminals etc.

        The people who move to Russia thinking they are upgrading their lives are few according to this article, but I’m still surprised by how these people completely ignored how authoritarian and destitute that country is. Germans moving to Russia thinking it’s the better place to be is a huge propaganda victory for the latter.

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          We’ll have none of that gay stuff in my house.

          Now, where should I hang my framed copy of this?

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      they “don’t recognise the community around me anymore”.

      I think that’s a narrative implanted in their brains by conservatives: too many brownskinned people, danger danger danger.
      Just like Russia deliberately creates the narrative that they offer an alternative, conveniently ignoring the multicultural nature of Russia - and the obvious conflict of becoming an immigrant yourself.

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    it just constantly boggles my mind how mentally ill people (Leo clearly has some form of mental illness) and truly idiotic people (again, applies to Leo) always seem to have enough money to just blow away like this. Meanwhile intelligent and sane individuals are barely scraping by.

    I mean i’m comfortable in life, more than comfortable, but i don’t have “move to another country simply because I hate a particular thing in society” money.

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      I mean he moved there and was immediately scammed out of his life savings so… you’re spot on lmao

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      I also think people with the mental caliber of Leo don’t think of consequences when they spend their money, so it’s possible he sold everything he owns and built debt to leave.

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        “Sure, I’ll borrow $100k. Good luck collecting when I’m in Russia!”

        Honestly, getting rid of them for $100k is probably a bargain.

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    1. Not really very different to the promises of great new lives made to people joining ISIS
    2. Oh the irony of becoming a migrant elsewhere whilst complaining about migrants at home.
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      Nonono, he is not an immigrant, he is an expat. HUGE difference! Just ask the British pensioners in Spain and southern France!

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        A lot of the Brits in Spain have been leaving because the Spanish have cracked down on tax-dodging, and because Brits lost their freedom of movement in the EU when they voted for Brexit. And the expats are whining like mad about it.

        Meanwhile, I know some people who’ve moved to Spain and Portugal, learned the language, assimilated and gotten the passport, instead of living in a soulless monolingual enclave, quaffing Spanish champagne, creeping on their neighbors’ wives and cultivating their melanoma like the Costa del Sol bunch.

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    Some prospective migrants complain about high immigration in their own countries or what they see as declining living standards, he says.

    Worried about immigration and poor living standards? Become an immigrant in Russia! Conservatives aren’t great at thinking things through.

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    Many of the would-be migrants are attracted by Russia’s Shared Values visa, sometimes called the “anti-woke” visa (…)

    Introduced by President Vladimir Putin in 2024, the visa offers temporary residency for up to three years to citizens of 47 countries Russia considers “unfriendly”.

    There is no limit to the number of people who can apply and applicants do not need to pass the usual Russian language, history or law tests.

    Instead, they must declare that they share Russia’s traditional spiritual and moral values and reject what the Russian government describes as the “destructive neoliberal ideology” of their home countries.

    Imagine no alarm bells going off as you read that 🤦

    Also, the USA is one of those 47 countries! Remember that the next time Trump boasts about his good relations with Russia and/or Putin being his buddy.

    The whole article - Leo’s story - is worth the read.

    Following their move to Russia, Leo’s family became one of the most visible examples of Western migration.

    Russian state media filmed their asylum ceremony and Leo publicly thanked President Putin for welcoming them. At the time, Leo believed he was helping to pioneer what he calls “an unprecedented piece of immigration legislation”.

    But the reality proved more difficult than he’d anticipated.

    Within weeks of arriving, Leo says they were defrauded of 5 million roubles – about £52,000 ($66,000) – by a contact they trusted, leaving them homeless.

    When I spoke to Leo earlier this year, he was living separately from his wife in the city of Ivanovo, and his older children had returned to the United States.

    Asked whether Russia had lived up to his expectations, Leo describes the last two years as the best and worst of his life.

    Something in the article reminded me of the Anastasia movement, one of those esoteric cults you need to look a little closer at to see the fascism.

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    Leo is a devout Christian who had become increasingly disillusioned with…the rise of the LGBTQ movement.

    Although he is committed to staying in Russia out of a sense of “destiny”, he now says he misses the freedoms that have shaped the American personality.

    “[In] Russia you don’t have these human rights values.”

    I mean…

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      these human rights values

      LOL, that’s just FAFO with a chef’s kiss. Kudos for honesty though. I hope he becomes reformed and much more skeptical of bullshit narratives; although the article does not read like it. More like he’s comfortable with a 50/50 divide in his mind. Christianity, I guess.

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      In some unmentioned corners of lemmy, they’d tell you without a hint of irony, that this is Western Propaganda and Russians are enjoying much more freedom than people in lets say Germany, where oppression has reached unheard of levels. …

      or something like that.

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      I hate gays more than I love human rights

      hope the guy gets sent to the front and barely survives just so he can share his message with all the other idiots.

      bet he’ll see dudes blowing dudes for socks or boots on the front lines.

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        I hate gays more than not being homeless.

        Imagine hating a group of people SO much you’d rather be homeless in Russia of all god damn places.

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    If we get rid of those idiots that way, why should we complain? I mean, there are enough sources of information to see how a county is. If you only rely on state-issued propaganda and you fall for it, don’t expect any sympathy.

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    I guess credit to them for following through but now they’re in the Find Out phase.

    Conservatives, tankies should really be careful for what they wish for.

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      Conservatives, tankies should really be careful for what they wish for.

      It’s kinda like when you see a dog barking behind a window, and it immediately calms down when you open it.

      Russia is the greatest country in the entire world… Until they have to live there.

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      I’m not sure following through is to their credit here. It takes a special kind of dumb, and a huge pile of it, to ignore all the red flags throughout the whole process.

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    I wonder if he’ll be drafted

    Within weeks of arriving, Leo says they were defrauded of 5 million roubles – about £52,000 ($66,000) – by a contact they trusted, leaving them homeless.

    Although he is committed to staying in Russia out of a sense of “destiny”, he now says he misses the freedoms that have shaped the American personality.

    “[In] Russia you don’t have these human rights values.”