• Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    American here. I haven’t heard the claims, but they’re likely true if Trump is upset.

    Did you guys know he raped kids?

    Yeah, there’s these things called the Epstein files. They’re pretty shocking, but his followers care more about what’s in all our fucking pants. Just like him, they’re also perverts. They want to see our genetalia before we enter bathrooms. Sick fucks.

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    11 days ago

    To any outside observer it looks like Iran has won this war, complete with reparations from the US.

    I’m sure Israel will blow this deal up though.

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      10 days ago

      israel/trump/benjamin has a vested interest in keeping it going. it keeps netanyahu out of jail, and trump out of the epstein files in the news.

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        10 days ago

        Yup, was just going to comment this. Bombs right on time to try and kill any ongoing negotiations. Israel is not a friend to the US, and trump clearly has no control over the situation. Shit, trump going into this nightmare at netanyahoo’s request is so on brand for the moron magats and trump.

    • Siegfried@lemmy.world
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      10 days ago

      Iran won the war when they dint bend like venezuela did in the first hours of this nonsensical operation. There is nothing the USA can win out of this confict, they are just losing power everywhere…

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        10 days ago

        they underestimated that iran can FIGHT BACK, and they stockpiled tons of missiles, venezuela was practically defenseless.

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        10 days ago

        Sadly no. But having just their government to deal with, instead of being squashed starved and slaughtered between the two is a minor improvement.

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          10 days ago

          I’m not even convinced USA and Israel won’t find a way to make them suffer. Both seem to love genocide.

    • mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 days ago

      The US simply has to restrict weapons and money to Israel. Bush senior did it and froze a 10 billions loan

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      10 days ago

      I think you can make a lot of legitimate critiques of the Israeli state, but suggesting g they can’t be trusted to hold to a treaty? No. That’s just totally baseless antisemitism.

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        10 days ago

        Baseless, really? Israel have shown themselves to be a bunch of perfidious schmucks since the inception of their state 70 years ago. They can’t be trusted to hold even a ceasefire with Palestine/Lebanon/Iran and have repeatedly attacked during negotiations.

        Your cry of antisemitism has worn out at this stage through ridiculous overuse and hyperbole. The only thing Israel has shown lately is that they have no honour or morality.

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          10 days ago

          Oh so we should just base our judgement of Israel on the thing they have done literally every single time for their entire existence and ‘the protocols of the elders of zion’? But you’re not an antisemite? Fucking troll.

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    10 days ago

    The president keeps straight up lying and saying the deal covers the nuclear issue, even as Iran says it doesn’t.

    This deal won’t hold even if it’s reached. As if our president could say no to Israel when they restart hostilities. This thing won’t end, it just remains to be seen if Iran is willing to accept lebanon being turned into gaza and attacks against Iran and their people while still keeping the straits open.

    This will go on forever, peace deal or no.

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        9 days ago

        Don’t be so sure. Trump has tipped the US’s hand and shown them to be weak as piss. It’s going to be pretty hard to walk back from here now since Trump has ruined all the soft power the US had around the world, and now we all know the military aren’t up to the task either the US will no longer hold a position of power at the negotiating table. Trump has completely and utterly fucked the US globally.

        Can you imagine Iran embarrassing the US weekly in the 1970s? They wouldn’t have dared. But now most of the world is laughing with them as we watch Trump shart himself to death.

  • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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    10 days ago

    According to leaks to Iranian media the draft includes a reconstruction which will result in Tehran receiving $300 billion to rebuild its cities. Also included will be the release of $24 billion in blocked Iranian funds, half of which must be paid to Iran before fresh talks start.

    Damn, that’s an Israeli level supply of foreign aid.

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    The thing I wanna know is how many israeli’s are doing the Anne Frank thing with palestinian families. You know: hiding them in the basement and feeding them.

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      Probably not too many since the Israeli army is invading its neighbours…not too many Israelis live in Lebanon , yet

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      they only do it if the palestinian is a child. and they only do it because in israel, it’s neither pedophilia or rape, to rape a palestinian child.

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    So Obama merely released Iran’s own monetary assets in American banks that we had frozen, which Trump attacked relentlessly, as recently as last week, but now he’s going to PAY them to repair the damage HE caused?

    He won’t be able to rationalize these concessions, so once again he will kill the deal, and blame Biden.

    • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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      9 days ago

      He won’t be able to rationalize these concessions

      As if his supporters needed any “rationalization”.

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        No, they’re cool with it, but they have to have a story that everyone sticks to, no matter how outlandish.

        For example:

        We need everyone to verify their age and identity on the Internet, so that children will never learn what human genitalia look like, NOT because they want to track our every move, and identify every single statement we post on the Internet.

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    10 days ago

    The article says solving the nuclear issue is not realistic in 60 days, I think it is. Trump will propose to reinstate what Obama obtained, with his name sharpied over.

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      Iran will never accept those terms today. That ship sailed when USA attacked Iran in the middle of negotiations.
      And now Iran has found out their negotiation position is way better than they thought before Israel ans USA attacked them.

    • rwrwefwef@sh.itjust.works
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      9 days ago

      Dissonance has never been an issue for the American right, but it’s going to be harder for Iran or Israel to accept that.