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    I believe Iran and other sanction countries would be doing the same? I see no drawbacks

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      it’s pretty much every country outside of the western hegemony.

      any manufacturing city will have markets filled with factory overstock from various brands they produce for. it’s perfectly normal.

      copyrights and trademarks do not exist in places where they are not enforced

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    Same for Iran :)) We have no copyright so there are official platforms like netflix with all pirated movies and the national tv shows pirated movies constantly. Also, not a single person buys windows or office licenses here :))

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      No one buys legitimate windows or office licenses anywhere, lol (except for corporations, I guess)

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        Depends if you count OEM licences that came with their device as purchases, which would be the vast majority of people.

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          I gave my Linux laptop to my brother and that fucker bought a separate retail copy of windows (because it’d be stealing otherwise). I’m ashamed to be related to that fucker.

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              It’s infuriating, but if it’s your brother, unless he’s jeopardising an important priority in your life in a way that affects your life opportunities and/or wellbeing/health, ya should probably tolerate it somewhat. Like explain why what he did is a bad thing and let it be. Family discount. At least it’s not your parent that’s acting up.

              Anyway, I am just talking out of my ass here, free advice, and all that. I don’t blame you at all, I’d be pissed too.

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                Oh i see him at family events I play with his kids. I even loaned him some money to buy a house. I just stopped talking about tech or exchanging tech. I stopped his access to my plex and nextcloud. I’m the tech guy of the family but he is blacklisted in tech.

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    Probably a good way to spread American culture into the country… Sweden has become super Americanized just because of American movies.

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    Imagine if they focused on creating tools that could jailbreak iOS devices, John Deere tractors, HP printers, etc. I bet they could sell that as a service. What could the US or American companies do to stop them? They could be Disenshittification Island.

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      What could the US or American companies do to stop them?

      The empire is literally bombing and starving the planet for the sake of capitalism and its MIC.

      They’re already murdering cubans for nothing.

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        Except that no country is likely to take him up on that suggestion because they’re afraid of how the US would react. Cuba’s already heavily sanctioned, so they have less to lose. Maybe nothing to lose.

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        I am personally betting a lot that this is where it’s going (career development-wise, not prediction markets, ugh)

        US tech has been absolutely awful and stagnating for awhile. It’s one thing to continue to deal with it when it’s actually offering good value, but it’s not. Between the data sovereignty concerns and tariffs, the EU is positioned to jolt its own tech market if it’s ready to take the opportunity, and I think they are.

        I’m not sure I’d expect anything big or grand, much like the “year of the Linux desktop” I don’t know that there will really be a breaking moment. Just slow building of momentum in that direction. And that’s all it really takes, once that momentum takes hold it’s not going to start flowing back to Microsoft. These greedy corporations overplayed their hand, they broke the agreements, and now there’s really no going back.

        So I hope …

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          If anything, I expect the EU to try and keep anti-circumvention laws to benefit its own tech industry.

          The neat thing about Doctorow’s proposal, though, is that at this point anyone could do it. Canada, India, Brazil… with tariffs already in play, there’s not really much to lose.

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            I have considered that possibility, yeah. I’m not an expert by far, but it seems less likely.

            Breaking from the US is going to cause an initial upheaval to the tech industry that the EU won’t be able to just immediately assert new anti-circumvention on while they are in the active process of a smash and grab. It’s going to take at least some amount of time for them to re-establish that on their terms during which people will become a lot better familiarized and practiced at what all this jailbreaking is going to look like.

            People can resist during that time and while I don’t necessarily delude myself into thinking that’ll be super effective, it will also require legal coordination and brand new anti-circumvention tech. Could still be wishful thinking, but I don’t assume it’s just a done deal.

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    They wouldn’t be able to pay the creators due to sanctions anyways. Could be seen as a positive because it allows the creators to put pressure on the US to lift the sanctions on the country.

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      There’s absolutely nothing “positive” about Cuba joining a genocidal empire just so they can broadcast commercials.

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      It’s also completely fine under all international law.
      Following copyright law is more like a trade agreement, so if you feel wronged enough as a nation it’s completely uncontroversial to suspend all or all international copyright law and deal with the consequences (mainly the us being very salty about it).

      The EU contingency for a US attack on Greenland for example is among other steps to suspend all US copyrights recognition and starve the US service industry.

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        I’m in the EU. I was anti-piracy in the past. It took Trump’s threats to our territory for me to stop paying any streaming services and actively engage in piracy. Now the money goes to the seedbox hosts outside the US instead of disney or netflix. I also started using ad-blocker for youtube instead of paying. I don’t think this is fair towards the content creators but i just can’t bring myself to give the US companies any money unless i absolutely have to. I will keep doing this until the US changes its laws/constitution to disallow someone like Trump from threatening their allies, oh and plus until they apologise and promise not to do it again.
        Not only will i not give them money, i will aim to cause them economical harm.

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          I was anti-piracy in the past.

          Hopefully you realize the error of your ways and the vast damage done by the violent control of free information. The hegemonic narrative around “ownership” serves capitalism, not humanity.

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          What I do is try to support the creators as directly as I can when possible. This obviously doesn’t really work with Hollywood productions, but it can work decently well with music and books. I’m hoping it also has the added side-effect of hopefully having more musicians/authors make their stuff available for direct purchase.

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    If all the ai clankers can do it I have no problem with Cuba doing it. Hell if it’s from a studio that bent the knee to trump, it should be encouraged to everyone, expecally for countries tired of the USA

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      Does this work both ways? If Cuba can do it, then AI companies can do it too? Or are we just gonna keep running with the double standards?

      I frankly never quite understood why so many piracy advocates lose their minds when AI companies do the exact same thing they do. I don’t buy the “but it’s for profit” argument either - downloading movies, games, or apps does the exact same thing. There’s no practical difference between saving money and earning money.

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        why are you asking questions backwards if tote already answered?

        a company is not a person, the only benefit a company can get from it is PROFIT and the value a real human being gets from pirating varies from pure entertainment to cultural capital

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          What you get from pirating is not having to pay. Purchasing a movie still gives you the same entertainment and cultural capital.

          Nobody is obligated to hand out for free something they put time, effort, and capital into creating and running. If someone can justify to themselves that it’s okay to download it for free, then criticizing AI companies for doing the exact same thing is hypocritical on their part.

          Making money and saving money achieve exactly the same thing: you end up with more to spend.

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            Yeah because saving money as an individual is the same as a company choosing to not pay copyright holders so they can make more profit from pirating petabytes of info

            Very clever, you are clearly very intelligent

            Let me put an /s just so this doesn’t go over your head too

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        Does this work both ways? If Cuba can do it, then AI companies can do it too?

        No, because we make such deferences out of empathy and social awareness, which is a thing for humans. Clankers, by definition, can deserve no empathy.