• Pika@sh.itjust.works
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    The followup article with Kinew moreorless matches my opinion on it. This isn’t going to be resolved this Election cycle. Carney really needs to just say “At this point trade negotiations are a waste of time and will not be looked into until at least 2028 and then we will go from there” because it’s clear even if optimal conditions are met, this US administration wouldn’t be trusted to actually follow the agreement regardless, and making concessions with the US over it is just going to get in the way of the Canada first mentality they are attempting to head towards.

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      The strategy should be to undo our reliance on the US for any trade at all and establish better global relations. Regardless of who comes into office in the future, the US has demonstrated they are not a stable or reliable partner in any respect.

  • TwinTitans@lemmy.world
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    Canadas taken its toys and gone home. The US hasn’t figured out it doesn’t have its own to play with yet.

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    distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> distract from tarrifs -> distract from Epstein files -> distract from war -> …

    Anybody keeping count?

  • Danika7@lemmy.world
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    Let The Fun Begin! - Critical Minerals/NOPE - More Hydro Electric Energy/NOPE - Canadians Drinking American Booze/NOPE - Canadians Deciding To Visit The States In Big Numbers Like They Used To Before/NOPE - It’s high time that our Canadian government, and all Canadians stand unwaveringly strong on this never ending train of ridiculous tariffs! ✅

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    Matching “dollar for dollar” is dumb. We have to do things that hurt us little while maximizing their squeal.

    Digital Services Tax needs to go in immediately. Tax exports of electricity and fuel. Lift trademark and patent restrictions. Repeal or amend the Copyright Modernization Act to eliminate DMCA style fuckery.

    We can hurt them while benefiting from removing their shitty policies forced on us.

    We should not try to fight toe to toe.

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      Canada owns near to half a trillion dollars in US bonds. Wonder what would happen if that was sold all at once?

      We just saw the US bail out Japan (which owns about 1.2 trillion) to avoid Japan selling those bonds to bail themselves out. Really stupid of them to do that and then the next week play hard ball on another country that owns sizable chunk of US debt.

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        Wonder what would happen if that was sold all at once?

        Canada would take a massive loss on the sale while the private markets and the Federal Reserve casually absorbs the influx of new notes at a discount.

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          It would definitely be dumb to let them go all at once. You’d want to dovest carefully. Or do some bond swaps, perhaps. Exchange some for euros or yuan.

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    i buy my maple syrup directly from a proud american retailer in vermont. you’ve never had pancakes as good as what my wife makes on a autumn morning.

    the only thing that canada exported to the USA that was worth a shit was episodes of riverdale. and that was only for madelaine petschs’s knockers.

    the drama wasn’t really any better than a typical episode of as the world turns and that was cancelled.

    i love duplicitous redheads though. it’s a weakness.

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      This guy right here showing us by example how we are living through the stupidest timeline.

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      Canada and the US engage in bilateral trade across the supply chain. And they are on generally good terms with the northern liberal neighbor states.

      Canadians would be better off working with their US neighbors to evade tariff collections than increasingly the policing on people who share a broad class interest

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    This trade deal thing was always kind of a wishy-washy. On one hand we don’t want people to lose their jobs and face economic hardship. On the other hand we don’t want to give in to the US. Americans think it’s about Trump, but we know that while some of his tariffs would be dropped by another President, not all of them will be. This is how it’s always been with trading with the US. Trump is more extreme than most Presidents, but Americans in general don’t deal with us honestly.

    This is going to be rough. People lose their jobs on both sides of the border. But at least now there’s clarity. No more maybe we should make a deal maybe we shouldn’t. Now there’s only: Let’s fucking go!

  • mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca
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    Despite the US offer to Canada to receive the best treatment of any major exporter to our market. new demands and walk backs of other commitments by Canada have upended the careful balance reached in the past days," he said, “This is a missed opportunity for Canada to partner with the United States, which is the fastest growing economy in the G7,” the USTR added further

    yeah, I don’t care. you don’t settle for a weekend of preferential treatment by an abusive partner

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    Bravo to Carney saying no and to Canada standing on their feet! I stand with Canada, Elbows up!

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      So like as an American, cool. Also as an American, and I’m sure I speak for most of us, we didn’t give a crap. Like as much as you think we care, it’s like 100th of that in reality.

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        …what? As an American, I care. I hope Canada comes out on top of this exchange and every exchange they’re unfortunate enough to be forced to have with us right now. I hope our economy gets fucked (just like it did previously).

        I applaud Canada and every country that stands up to Trump. If the whole world just collectively cut us out of global politics and the economy, I’d applaud even louder. We deserve it.

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        as an American, and I’m sure I speak for most of us, we didn’t give a crap

        I get it. False consensus aside, it’s a trope that Americans don’t much care about things outside their borders. Many Americans never cross a border, and for many people if it doesn’t affect them directly then it’s just noise in a busy day.

        But with such long unguarded borders, minimal manufacturing, insufficient resources and a surplus of cash crops, it needs friends who will deal squarely with it and help secure those borders.

        And when the oil and electricity run short, I hope America is cool paying “market prices” if we’re no longer best-buds.

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    Canadian dollar to US dollar, seems good.

    Besides, standing up to him is the only way to deal with TACO.

    Spit in his face and wait 'til Tuesday.