Ubuntu is the leading distro, if I’m not mistaken. It’s also compatible with Mint, Zorin, Xubuntu, etc, which are another leading distros than Fedora. Is it only for redhat users or secondary distro?
Go ahead and try Ubuntu and let me know how much you love their “App Store” experience. So many broken apps in their Snap store.
Fedora just works. Ubuntu is like the Windows of Linux. They think they know better than their users and, as such, try to force feed you the things they think are better, even when they’re worse.
The only reason is f*ck snap and Ubuntu for forcing it onto users
I prefer Fedora over Ubuntu because they are more up to date and put Flatpak over Snap.
But the real reason I originally switched was that the Ubuntu installer crashed 5 times in a row and then I tried Fedora and liked it
Ubuntu is based off of Debian, just use Debian instead.
Ubuntu is the most broken distro I have ever used. From when it first came out until today.
Pick anything over Ubuntu.
I do really like fedora. If you want the latest stuff as fast as a rolling distro, with zero update issues, you want fedora.
Canonical sucks.
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the corporate side of Red Hat is far less evident on Fedora than Canonical’s on Ubuntu
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vanilla UX
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Atomic editions
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fast yet stable updates
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more lightweight ISO
it also has disadvantages, specially for nontechnical folks
- Free Software Policy (NVIDIA drivers and some codecs not pre-installed)
- non LTS version available (Atomic desktops are easier to manage if keeping un-updated for very long periods)
- it uses RPM packages which are good, but there might be some software only offering DEBs (containers and extraction tools can help with that)
- non LTS version available (Atomic desktops are easier to manage if keeping un-updated for very long periods)
Fedora is a semi-rolling release distribution, so this isn’t really a problem for a desktop or laptop. It’s really an advantage for desktops and laptops.
- it uses RPM packages which are good, but there might be some software only offering DEBs (containers and extraction tools can help with that)
A lot of software is packaged as a Flatpak image, so less of a problem then it used to be.
If you want LTS, you would pick something like RockyLinux. They offer support for 10 years per release.
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Canonical.
I’m curious why you’d say that. Ubuntu has made some weird decisions.
I dislike their DE. Snaps where a flop buy the vision was ambitious and cool if it had worked. And Id prefer a gnu system utils. But those are just reasons I don’t use it.
So if you like a Ubuntu derivative, they’re a fine vanilla distros. And they’ve always had deep ties with the FLOSS community and they are one of the primary reason we have a Linux desktop. So not sure I get the hate.
I meant canonical is RhE best reason not to choose ubuntu.
Right, they provide the funding for the developers keeping one of the most accessible distros going so whats the problem?
Canonical’s engineering is poor. They build weird stuff, and they want to close Linux off through CLA and permissive licenses. They aren’t a trust worthy company.
RH does more. RH is Linux for all intents and purposes.
Fedora is better. At one time, Ubuntu was good, but that was 20 years ago. The Fedora community has done a great job of stepping up to make it a great desktop distribution.
I can’t recall the history exactly, but Red Hat was once free. Then it seems like I recall CentOS or Fedora replacing it as the FOSS fork. I’m old and my memory sucks. Anyone else recall?
I think with that argument its better to point out Fedora has taken pains to isolate itself from Redhat/IBM. Because while IBM has historically had great engineering, they are not know for great licensing. In fact the basically destroyed and entire enterprise ecosystem recently with the licensing changes to RHEL.
Yeah, the Fedora community revolted when RH tried to force Fedora to be what they wanted, and RH left Fedora to the community after that. 😆
Moving CentOS upstream of RHEL? That was a good thing. RHEL didn’t have a true upstream, and now that is CentOS. The RHEL and the clones now have a central place to upstream code, and they now are the EL ecosystem instead of only RHEL. It’s created more diversity and has added more options.
For example, Alma doesn’t have to be bug-for-bug compatible with RHEL. They can carry their own patches and add features which their base wants and only be binary compatible.
Getting dumped on but I genuinely just want to know. 🤷
Personally, I really like dnf over apt, SELinux over apparmor, and firewalld over ufw, but it’s all personal preference.
I second all of this.
Biggest benefit to Fedora over Ubuntu would be more up-to-date packages. Debian-based distros tend to run much older versions of everything. Fedora brings you closer to upstream releases.
Ubuntu could use bleeding edge packages in their repos if they really wanted to. The fact that it is based on Debian is not a limiting factor.
Snap
Another user mentioned a handful of benefits. I would add that Fedora is more secure than Ubuntu or any of the derivatives you mentioned out of the box. In fact, it’s more secure than most other regular Linux distros.
I also like that it uses vanilla versions of Gnome and KDE. They leave the customization to the end user.
Speaking of KDE, if you prefer it, there are few distros that do it better. Maybe OpenSUSE Tubleweed or
Open Mandriva ROME. For me, Fedora KDE Plasma fits my needs almost perfectly.Finally, I think the installer is way better. Ubuntu’s has become less flexible over the years. Fedora’s is still super easy but offers a lot more options.
The one potential drawback I can think of is that official versions of some software are only available as a .deb. That’s more and more rare in my experience.
I recently learned that OpenMandriva’s president (warning, lunduke link as evidence) has declared the project “non-woke” and “anti-DEI”, which has resulted in it attracting a hard right community. IMO, a good reason to avoid it.
i lost a lot of brain cells reading through that second link and i’d like them back
Ahh good to know! Such a shame.
There’s at least Mageia still carrying the Mandrake/Mandriva torch without that baggage :)
Ubuntu is the leading distro
Leading in what? By most users? With that argument we should install Windows, because its the leading platform.
I think Ubuntu is a popular distro. Not necessarily leading in any way. There’s other popular distros out there, distros with good documentation, simple to use or beginner friendly, distros which are fast or have a lot of software available. And I’m -personally- not a huge fan of Canonical’s business decisions and what they’re trying to push on a given day… So I pick different Linux distros. YMMV.
Maybe you mean Cachy OS or Tumbleweed?
Sure. I’ve heard a lot of praising words towards Cachy OS. Tumbleweed might be your thing if you’re looking for an easy rolling release distro… I didn’t mention any specific ones since we all use computers differently, we all have different use-cases, levels of expertise… And I also don’t just use one distro. I have a different one on the server than on my laptop, I use yet a different one for retro gaming… There’s just so much out there and depending on what exactly you do, could be any of a dozen or so different options and they’re all good (or there’s reasons to pick or not pick them…)
Leap nice too actually in direct comparing to Ubuntu LTE, I like leap cause it bases on suse enterprise
How do you feel about an AI agent being in the distro? There is no privacy with a free AI agent.
https://discourse.ubuntu.com/t/the-future-of-ai-in-ubuntu/81130
There is no privacy with a free AI agent.
Depends on where the AI is hosted. If you’re running a local LLM, all of that data is stored in-house on your PC.
Yeah, and while I’m iffy on Canonical and have migrated off Ubuntu, they do seem to only be focused on local LLMs for those features.
