Just as everyone is getting sick of ugly flat UIs, they release a nice new ugly flat UI
Speak for yourself.
Audacity is fine but its operations are destructive. I’ve been trying to learn Ardour, but it’s a completely different beast…
I don’t think OP’s link mentions it but iirc one of the major changes in Audacity 4.0 is supposed to be non-destructive editing. At least that’s what I think I remember hearing like a year or more ago.
It already supports realtime audio plugins now, which are non-destructive.
It adds two toolbar buttons, share audio and get plugins, which seem to be only usable with an audio.com account and are not removable. Bummer.
isn’t audacity spyware now? or did they stop that
they stopped that very soon after the controversy started
The fact that they even considered this, made me lose trust in them. Tenacity FTW.
i never understood the vitriol against debug-only opt-in telemetry
I’ll venture, it’s a natural if misdirected immune reaction from people who are all too aware they are being tracked ceaselessly and relentlessly, all day, everyday, not to their benefit. So sure, this one piece of software swears its own tracking is just for debugging purposes… But why risk it?
that does explain a lot, thank you! /genuine
It only became opt-in when people found out.
And it’s not the only problem I have with Audacity, this is from an article in slashgear
"…For example, it says that it collects data necessary for law enforcement but doesn’t specify what kind of data is collected.
There are also questions regarding the storage of data, which is located in servers in the USA, Russia, and the European Economic Area. IP addresses, for example, are stored in an identifiable way for a day before being hashed and then stored in servers for a year. The new policy also disallows people under the age of 13 from using the software, which, as FOSS Post points out, is a violation of the GPL license that Audacity uses."
It only became opt-in when people found out.
source? this is an open-source respository and everything i’ve found contradicts that
the privacy policy thing was a different thing that was definitely a strike in my eyes, but keep in mind that they reverted that too pretty soon after controversy, claimed it was overzealous lawyering, and it’s been four years since without any further incidents.
Let’s say, they had the Audacity
Oh, that’s good to hear.
technically it was never shipped and only planned to be enabled in testing builds, and no code ever touched anything outside of audacity on the computer except maybe hardware and dependency details though i’d have to check again for those
edit: besides audacity stuff it only collected the audacity sqlite3 engine and OS version
Meh. Prefer Tenacity without the enshittification.
Yeah, mee too. However, there wouldn’t be any Tenacity without Audacity. Besides, Tenacity looks quite far from upstream commits. Doesn’t paint a bright future for the fork. I wish more devs offered their help.
tenacity development looks somewhat moribund and lacks so many of audacity’s added features and fixes like pasting audio. tenacity’s release porting audacity’s added realtime effects, beats and measures view, and opus support has only been present in an alpha released eight months ago.
What’s enshitified about it?
They tried to add in opt out telemetry in. A few forks were created as a result.
it was never opt-out, it was always planned to be opt-in

Been looking forward to it. I know there’s been some buyout but I am feeling optimistic about its future after watching the video made by one of the guys working on it
imo i always saw it as an advanced multitrack tape editor style program. idk what update it was, but it was after the buyout where the accuracy of the change speed effect got worse, especially for longer clips (like an hour or 2) where it would just desync entirely. last time i checked they have it on the backend of priorities. tells everything you need to know.
Tantacrul ? That guy is a freaking genius. Not only he has done one of the (if not THE) best UX/UI redesigns in the history of FOSS apps. Plus his videos are amazingoy entertaining and informative. Highly recommended.
Ooooh, exciting ☺️
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