U.S. President Donald Trump said in a social media post this morning that “a whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again,” as his threatened attacks on Iranian infrastructure loom ahead of an 8 p.m. ET deadline.
Iran has rejected a 45-day ceasefire proposal and says it wants a permanent end to the war.
UN Secretary General António Guterres warned the U.S. that attacking civilian infrastructure is banned under international law.
The death toll so far includes more than 1,900 people in Iran, 1,400 in Lebanon, 23 in Israel, about two dozen in other countries in the region, 13 U.S. service members and 11 Israeli soldiers.
The TruthSocial Post:
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116363336033995961
UPDATE (5:32 PM EST / UTC-04:00):
Motherfucking TACO Tuesday.
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116365796713313030
Am I the only one wondering how the fuck a president has all this power? I thought USA was a democracy, not a fucking dictatorship. Who has voted for all these wars? And if it’s this easy to just get around an approval, shouldn’t this be your main agenda for coming elections in the future, because your entire system rewards a guy like Trump for doing whatever he wants.
If either party actually disagreed on principle, we would have heard someone criticize the war on principle and not on breaking procedural norms or not planning the war well enough. Virtually every critique I have seen from elected officials, at least before this explicitly genocidal statement here, is some form of those two. “This war was poorly planned” is only a sidenote observation from someone actually opposed to a war of aggression. It’s the most milquetoast opposition you can give to claim you were always against it when things go wrong. No way in hell am I going to accept that they were powerless to stop him when no one will even clearly lay out the actual reasons why this is wrong.
We know that actions speak louder than words, but if we want to give anyone else in our government the benefit of the doubt we’re gonna have to figure out what comes next after words.
TACO already happened, btw. Delayed by two weeks.
Yep, I just caught it, added an update to the main post body.
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… fuck do i hate this shit.
This is a pretty straightforward declaration of genocidal intent. If the Americans bomb civilian infrastructure, there is a credible case for accusing them of Genocide in the Hague.
EDIT: Historian Timothy Snyder also identified it as such, pointing that this creates legal liabilities up and down the American state: https://snyder.substack.com/p/the-president-speaks-genocide
UN Secretary General António Guterres warned the U.S. that attacking civilian infrastructure is banned under international law.
Yeah, it is illegal. However is anyone to punish the US for it?
Better write a letter to let know Israel that they can’t legally genocide the Palestinian and Lebanese people.
Oh looks like they hit that mail truck. Got too close to the school they were bombing
I heard the mail truck was a terrorist mail truck. That school? It had secret tunnels for terrorists. Also, all those children? Terrorists.
A year ago, with the Greenland / Canada threats and idiotic tariffs, I begged that there be some kind EU … GIGN / GROM / KSK type operation to eliminate Trump and his cabinet.
I guess people thought I was joking.
Since then, things have gotten literally insanely worse, kidnapped Maduro, blew up NATO, essentially destroyed 20% of the world’s economy, etc.
International law is totally meaningless unless there’s people actually enforcing it.
We don’t enforce domestic laws in the US either, unless we are talking about poor people.
I’m gonna murder all of you, and god bless you
Okay then…
As in god bless their souls, AFTER I SEND THEM STRAIGHT TO HELL
That’s just such an Epstein files thing to say. How can a President Epstein files those words and expect the world not to Epstein files in revulsion. To be brutally Epstein files he seems a little desperate. These are not the words of a sane Epstein files.
You do understand that evil people can do multiple evil things for multiple independent evil reasons, don’t you? This “everything is a distraction from Epstein” is cringe.
You know… you’re right. I should be more Epstein files about it. You can’t reduce a complex Epstein Files likes this to just one Epstein files.
I don’t want to have a nuclear war, my new birdfeeder is coming tomorrow.
We are permenantly hyper fucked if the best interpretation of his words are bombing Iran’s infrastructure so badly that Iran retaliates by destroying all oil and desalination facilities in surrounding countries, rendering them uninhabitable for millions.
Watch those betting sites for the US dropping a nuke, if a bunch of bets come in all at once (Trump insiders)….
I hate that what I typed above is plausible
Unfortunately you are correct.
Also check out the Pentagon Pizza Index. They also source some I to on active bets on such sites, although take their accuracy with a grain of salt.
This is the best case scenario. We’re right now at a point where this is the desirable outcome of his words. THIS.
The US have utterly fucked this world in about a year…
Republican traitor filth have completely fucked the world in a year…
~60% of the country either voted for him or couldn’t be arsed to vote at all, declaring with their non-vote that both candidates were equally valid.
Sorry mate but… it’s the US. It’s not just a minority of people. It’s the fucking president and administration of the United States of America.
If he was just a republican traitor and not the president of the country, he wouldn’t be threatening with nuking a country.
Bro straight up admitted to rigging the elections multiple times.
And yet, he only won by a fraction, not a landslide. However, it remains true that a good 30% of the country couldn’t be bothered to vote. If only a portion of that 30% decided that maybe Harris was a slightly better president, we wouldn’t be here today.
That’s what you want if you’re rigging elections. If you make it too obvious too soon, someone might do something about it.
And it was the second highest eligible voter turnout in US history.
You had one candidate that was Hitler in orange. He said it, he had a nazism instruction book that he said he would be doing if he won.
The other candidate could have been a dog for what’s worth AND SHOULD HAVE WON BY LANDSLIDE.
Yet, this wasn’t the case. He might have rigged the elections, fuck… he surely rigged the elections… But if your country worked, he should have needed to rig them so badly that the scandal could have seen from anywhere. And, if even then, he declared victory, you should have done a real 6th jan to remove him.
Well, you’re not wrong, but that would still be a catastrophe modern world hasn’t yet seen. Those millions would become refugees and absolutely overwhelm European immigration system even with mass casualties due to riots, loss of water/food/medicine and who knows what else. Current oil prices would seem pretty cheap and global economy would take a massive hit causing homelesness, bankrupts, humongous loss of crops (due to fuel and fertilizer prices) and all kinds of havoc.
Global west would suffer badly, China would become even stronger, Russia would benefit from that as well causing even more problems around Europe. Global trade with USA would practically collapse and pull USA down as well. In the global scale it doesn’t even matter that much if there’s a nuclear explosion somewhere too as results will be pretty nuclear anyways.
Worst case, we suffer a nuclear war, nuclear winter and we’ll be lucky if anything survives.
Americans are resisting
I havent really seen much to support this. They just seem to be going on with their day.
He’s gonna nuke Tehran isn’t he?
Who could’ve guessed that eschewing the US’s soft power they built up over decades for Russian style “might makes right” posturing and sabre rattling would not work? Trump is really speedrunning to “Chinese ultimatums” with this fiasco.
Killing millions of innocent Iranians in a nuclear strike is a quick-fire way to turn the entire world against you. I sincerely hope this is a TACO situation and not Donald truly losing the plot.
Also, it could ignite a nuclear arming race and every country will try to get nukes.
Or worse - every country will sanction the USA, starting with seizing trump properties, oh no
I mean, it is Taco Tuesday so lets hope
Yeah this is the whole problem with the ‘madman’ strategy, when applied to nuclear armed states.
Its … arguably much worse when the person employing the madman strategy… is literally a demented madman with a cult of personality atound him.
Hope you got your pip boy in working order.
Intrusive thought of the day:
Simulations suggest that evenly a relatively modest India/Pakistan exchange (modest by the standards of a full nuclear exchange between Russia and the US, you’re still talking millions dead) would produce enough dust and soot into the air to seriously affect the climate of the planet.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_winter#Recent_modeling
But that also implies nuclear winter exists on a scale. Even one H-bomb will have some affect. In principle, it would be possible to determine the precise level of nuclear winter required to combat global warming. Then, if the target country doesn’t have nukes of their own to retaliate with, a nuclear power could drop just enough nukes to cause just enough nuclear winter to cancel out global warming. As long as they’re the only one releasing any nukes, they could precisely control the scale of the resulting nuclear winter effect. Literally designing an act of mass genocide as a means of combating climate change.
:/
It is kind of darkly hilarious that concievably, some specific amount of nuclear warfare would theoretically cancel out at least some processes that are currently already running away in global warming.
The… problem of course is that no one knows the specifics of this with any degree of certainty… and if you do not know the specifics, well the potential downsides are essentially infinite.
But, if you have the brain of a religious extremist, or malignant narcissist… well, nuance doesn’t compute so well for these people, but they are also, somewhat paradoxically, uncommonly good at asserting their own will and power.
In summary… if God is real, they’re a trickster God.
Yeah, and I think that anyone knowledgeable enough to model nuclear winter accurately would refuse to participate in that kind of military planning. If you go to a climate researcher, put a gun to their head and said, “help us calculate just the amount of nuked cities needed to cancel out the temperature increases of climate change or we’ll shoot you,” I think most would just say, “fine. Do it.”
You’d be broadly wrong about your assumption, plenty of extremely bright people have historically, and are currently, working in or for the military industrial complex.
… Literally everyone involved in the Manhattan Project, Werner Von Braun, Mengele, just off the top of my head.
Facebook got its massive grant that kickstarted it… on the same day that the CIA/NSA discontinued a major planned project to develop digital espionage capabilities.
The internet itself was born out of ARPA/DARPA research grants.
I have a cousin with an engineering degree, used to work for probably Skunkworks, he did have to move to roughly the area that Skunkworks has facilities, his speciality was ceramics, things that can go get really hot without breaking, he joked when he said he’d have to kill me if he answered ‘were you working on the sr-72?’
He couldn’t answer that, but he did say he quit because of the racist and toxic political environment… he went on to work for BlueOrigin…
…you know yeah cool spaceflight, but also, Amazon is a military industrial complex member as well, their servers currently run comms and likely AI assisted kill chain target analysis/delineation, which is probably a good part of why Iran is blowing up regional Amazon data centers.
Bezos is very much personally in bed with Trump.
Nah.
Plenty of bright people will work for evil entities, often without too much coaxing.
Mengele? What are you talking about?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josef_Mengele
PhD from University of Munich. MD from University of Frankfurt.
A highly educated man who eagerly put his education to work, for the military-industrial complex, knowingly doing horrific things.
Futurama (and Matt Groening) predicting the future again.
HOW did this Man ONLY get the FIFA Peace Prize!
ubi solitudinem faciunt, pacem appellant
Well if everyone is dead we have peace, he clearly needs another one. \s
I’m hoping if he gives the order to demolish Tehran, or worse, nuke them, enough people refuse to do it.
I don’t think he realizes how old Persian civilization really is
He would think you’re talking about rugs…
If this shit was in an apocalypse movie people would complain about it being unrealistic.
No way a US president would say that!
Really? via a social media post? did they run out of budget for actors? “Praise be to allah”? did the writers forget which side he’s on?If he hadn’t TACO’d before this would be terrifying. not to say it’s not horrible still
Can you even imagine what Harris would have done?! Whew we really dodged a nuke.
