Wang Yi cautioned against a return to the ‘law of the jungle’ but stopped short of criticising Trump directly
War in the Middle East “should never have happened”, China’s foreign minister Wang Yi has declared, even as he struck a more conciliatory tone with the US ahead of a highly anticipated visit by Donald Trump.
Regime change, a key stated aim of the US president as the US and Israel continue to attack Iran, “will find no popular support”, Wang said on Sunday. “A strong fist does not mean strong reason. The world cannot return to the law of the jungle,” he added.
Speaking on the sidelines of China’s annual parliamentary and political gatherings, known as the Two Sessions, the country’s top diplomat and foreign affairs official notably avoided directly criticising the US.
America should have never elected a felon pedophile.
Great. I agree.
What does China think of what’s been going on in Ukraine for the last four years?
Exactly. It would restore my faith to their good intentions if they’d call their puppet out of Ukraine. But their only true goal is to try and fight the US in all thigs they can (without pissing them off ofc), so two-faced.
It’s likely not going to take that many months when they will resort to that ”strong fist” too. Tech giants know this too and that’s why they need to get all the chips they can NOW because it’s going to be a few years of no chips from certain areas…
their puppet
Who?
Vlad the Paler
Well yes, but he assumes the Trump administration has at least an iota of competence, when really they’re the administrative equivalent of a monkey with an assault rifle.
EDIT: I’ve been contacted by the Monkeys With Assault Rifle Association (MWARA) and would like to issue a formal apology for this false equivalency, as it was an insult to their competency. They sure made a monkey out of Trump.
EDIT2: Again, I’d like to issue a formal apology…
Hello, my name is Mr.Captal. thorhop wont be around anymore, he has been conscripted to fight honorably in your leaders holy war. Please accept my apology on his behalf.
So troubles in the shadow organization? China’s handlers not on board with their prophecies? Nah, fake posturing
A Zionist state should never have happened.
American electing a president which supports a Zionist state should never have happened.
This aggressive war is one link ina much larger chain of things which should never have happened, as is the next link, the war crimes already commited by the aggressor states.
Well I mean how else was the president going to distract us all from him being in the Epstein files millions of times.
It was never about that. There’s already been a lot of instability in Iran (massive water shortages) and this was just an opportunity to put their foot on Iran’s neck to cause even more instability. With that instability created and oil prices going up, it will cause global inflation. With things becoming priced out for regular people it will cause some markets to crash, then the ultra rich will buy up those things and consolidate even more wealth and power.
- Universal health care.
- Financial help for the poor.
- Free music performances in all states
- Large momnument construction
- Investing in local infrastructure
- Visiting sick kids in a hospital.
Probably a lot more of those. And none of these involve killing people.
Yeah but you forgot that our president is a malignant narcissist.
All at the low low cost of eradicating people you find genetically inferior: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persecution_of_Uyghurs_in_China
The world cannot return to the law of the jungle,” he added.
If only he had said that to Putin too, when Russia invaded Ukraine and started a full scale war.
Time for Europe to hold him to this announcement.China did denounce the war in Ukraine.
As I recall it, that was a bit ambiguous.
Iirc they said that diplomatic measures should’ve been employed instead.
All in all, it didn’t matter then and doesn’t now, because they just keep this ‘neutral’ thing going and denounce this and that. The actual trade policy and such work by a completely different logic. They aren’t gonna boycott the US or sever trade with them, just as they haven’t with Russia.
Iirc they said that diplomatic measures should’ve been employed instead.
Which is total bullshit, what diplomatic measureless were necessary or even possible? When Ukraine was absolutely peaceful, and Putin was promised that Ukraine wouldn’t become a NATO member? And Putin attacked Ukraine with an argument of denazification, which is insane since Ukraine is a democracy, and their leader is Jewish! Of the 2 Russia is clearly the very Nazi like totalitarian regime.
That statement by China was for appearances only, it was hollow and completely lacked any criticism of Putin or Russia or the war crimes Russia is committing.
Which is why I don’t remember China speaking against the war in any real way.
Of course there could still have been diplomatic measures, Zelensky wanted to negotiate with the Russians until the very end and Ukraine seemed to believe Putin wouldn’t ultimately invade even when USA was saying they’re almost certainly going to and released supporting intel.
That’s not to say Russia wasn’t always in the wrong since the 2013 events of course but it doesn’t mean the Ukrainians weren’t willing to compromise on some things in 2022 just to get some normalcy.
Obviously calling for a diplomatic solution makes no sense until AFTER the invasion.
Before that as you mention, even Zelensky didn’t think the Russians would invade.Why would China call for a diplomatic solution to something that hasn’t happened yet?
It wasn’t just the invasion that needed a diplomatic solution, there was after all a war already going on in Eastern Ukraine since 2014 even if it had somewhat frozen. The Russian troop concentrations were interpreted by some like Zel as just posturing in order to bring that conflict to an end through a diplomatic solution while the previous agreements had failed.
USA did promise to gorbachev about not one inch to east tho? But NATO is just expanding and expanding
I am not justifying russia, what they did was stupid and evil but talk on facts
Nope, no such promise was ever part of any formal agreement between NATO/USA and Russia.
It would also be pretty moronic, since voluntary unification of Germany was always a goal for West Germany. Which would automatically move the NATO border east.There was possibly a promise that East Germany would not be used by NATO forces, but that agreement had nothing to do with including new member countries.
Also that agreement wasn’t formal, and was definitely not meant to be binding long term.This was said after unification of Germany
US ambassador to USSR Jack F Matlock also accepted this on TV
Yes, that was some great lip service.
Exactly. Just like this time.
Based china. Crazy timeline we live in where china is the voice of reason.
lol yeah while flying fighter jets above taiwan daily
Its pretty normal for anyone who isnt a wesern liberal🤷♂️
Theyre just taking advantage of a golden opportunity for PR.
I don’t believe its honest, given what goes on inside their own borders.
Although to be honest, do you know any government that is honest? It’s all PR.
It would never have happened if Kamala was the president and if it had she’d have ended it in 24 hours.
edit: looks like people have not been paying attention to Trump’s comments and/or the far lefties feel personally attacked by this, lol
The far left gets offended any time you suggest things would be better if trump wasn’t president. Strange…
Yeah, it’s a consequence of pretending that there is no difference between the Democrats and Republicans and ending up helping Trump get in power.
Larp larp
Kamala called iran to be americas greatest adversary Pledged to have most lethal fighting force Also supported israel openly
Was mostly meming about the bs Trump has been spewing by using his words about Ukraine but yeah I’m fairly convinced she would have not started an illegal war against Iran together with Israel… or let Israel completely steamroll Gaza while making plans to transform it into a holiday resort for the rich.
Also, who cares if he called the US military lethal, that’s in fact a true statement but it matters whether or not you use it to start illegal wars and settle personal grudges, rob other countries of their natural resources, kill civilians in the Caribbean or bomb schools with almost 200 little girls because the rules of engagement are “bold” etc.
It never would have happened if Trump were… Oh… Nevermind.
China has to speak from both sides of the mouth. Iran is a client and source of its oil. US is a client and source of its $1 trillion dollar trade surplus. China needs both of them.
which they are both frenemies of russia, he doesnt want to upset that balance too.
Any war should never have happened. But at one point some people decide that the status quo isn’t good and war is the only way to move forward. Perfectly good resources are wasted, civilians die, trust between peoples is destroyed.
And when war has begun, politicians again use the war as a basis for argumentation for their own agenda. It colors the meaning of a statement.
It’s mind-boggling that the entire history of war hasn’t been “our leaders decided they wanted a war so we tossed them in a pit with sharp sticks to figure things out and suddenly they decided war was avoidable”
We have more in common with a random American Crack dealer, a random middle-Eastern farmer, Chinese retail worker, South American factory worker, than anyone who leads major countries, anyone in the 1%.
I have no ill will toward any Iranian, in fact I’ve known quite a few immigrants and think better of Iran than most US states, yet my country leaders decided it was a good idea to bomb the fuck out of them. We should toss them in a hole until they can work together with the rest of us, yet here we are…
i met a few iranians, one was obviously Openly lgbtq+ another one later in a different university was ba’hai and she hated the islamic regime because they were ethnically cleansing the ba’hai
The perversion of executive into leader is part of how we got here. Executives are supposed to answer I other people not lead anything. Like how a CEO in theory answers to a board of directors.
Wouldn’t the world be rapidly conquered by some Thrud the Barbarian type leader then?
You know, I was considering putting the potential downside of “one country might just have a young and jacked leader that can thrash all the old rich people” but figured my comment was getting too long for anyone to care to read.
I think at that point the people would just have to chuck him in an active volcano instead of a pit.
We need to have our leaders personally duel instead, loser can give some concessions. Challenged leader gets to pick the weapon…
Probably the best way to sum up war, honestly.
Good to hear Taiwan will only be reunified diplomatically, if ever.
That’s what Xi keeps repeating, that reunification is only possible by continuously strengthening economic, cultural and even political ties. Western media keeps trying to claim he wants to “take Taiwan by force” but there’s never a source, it’s always “read between the lines” of his speeches.
Idk continuous military landing drill and jets doesn’t really look peaceful.
I don’t plan on having arguement with .ml so just ignore though.
You don’t understand the situation. China does not consider Taiwan a separate independent country, and has never recognized it as such. Unfortunately USA and most of the world has agreed to accept the 1 China policy, which means Taiwan is not treated as a real country in many international contexts.
China see Taiwan as an occupied part of China.
So by their definition they are within their right to attack Taiwan, including by international law as they see it.
So in their view, they can say this, and attack Taiwan, without seeing that as a double standard. And the west has basically agreed to it from a legal perspective. But at the same time USA say they protect Taiwan, which would traditionally have meant likely the rest of NATO too. But now NATO is in shambles because of Trump, so maybe USA will be alone now. America first!How’s this post related to Taiwan? Do you have to talk about the island every single time China is mentioned?
It’s not related to Taiwan, but that commenter made a connection. Do you not get it?
The western lib obsession with Taiwan is unbelievable. China hasn’t entered a war in 50+ years, it’s literally inconceivable for the western mind that China actually has good trade relations with Taiwan, because you can only understand violence and sanction, as is the case of Cuba by the US.
The exact same Principle applies to judging the Russian aggression against Ukraine, the American and Israeli aggression against Iran and the possible Chinese aggression against Taiwan.
The difference for the latter is that so far it has only been threats, hence only concern about the possibility of it happening is justified, whilst judging China for it is not justified.
Not saying that some (maybe even most) people knee-jerking “Taiwan” as soon as somebody says “China” aren’t being good little propaganda-driven muppets, rather I’m saying that some are not and their concern comes from personal principles around aggression and self-determination.
The exact same Principle applies to judging the Russian aggression against Ukraine
The Russian republic had armed conflict in the 90s and 2000s with the Chechen wars, it has precedent of militaristic attitudes.
the American and Israeli aggression against Iran
The US had armed conflict in the 90s, 2000s and 2010s, and Israel has been genociding Palestinians since its inception
and the possible Chinese aggression against Taiwan
China doesn’t have a recent history of militarism. It’s pure speculation and kinda senseless looking at China’s attitudes towards Taiwan and their extensive trade agreements.
Communist China has invaded and annexed Tibet.
So China when governed by the very same political force as governs it now is a proven imperialist.
They’re also more powerful than Russia and on their way to supplant the US.
It makes total sense to be worried that a powerful nation which under a government of the same ideology as governs it now has done so, will invade another far weaker and much smaller neighboring country which they’ve been consistently claiming to be “part of our nation” for decades.
What it doesn’t make sense is to blame China for something they haven’t actually done, only talked about.
Communist China has invaded and annexed Tibet.
This is over 50 years ago as I said, and you’re mischaracterizing what happened. Tibet was a feudal kingdom where the vast majority of the population were starved serfs legally bound to the land of their god-given lord. China liberated Tibet from feudalism and rose life expectancy and material conditions massively, while preserving their heritage, language and culture, and a degree of autonomy within China higher than most other regions (Tibet is an autonomous region).
Using ‘lib’ as an insult just exposes the idiocy, thanks for self reporting.
Red MAGA, Green MAGA, it doesn’t change.
It’s not an insult, it’s a description of your political position, a shortening of the word “liberal” in the USian sense of the word.
What’s green MAGA? Genuinely curious, I never heard that before. Maybe following the teachings of Gaddafi’s green book?
Just be thankful I didn’t bring up the Hundred Acre Wood.
Oh wow, thank you so much <3
Just about everything that tRUMP is even remotely connected to almost definitely shouldn’t have happened.
History on the side China.
