• sanpo@sopuli.xyz
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    6 months ago

    I mean, of course USA has culture - it’s one of their most successful international exports!

    I think when people complain about lack of culture they usually mean “old” culture, since USA as a country is still relatively young.

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      6 months ago

      That kinda makes sense. At the same time, Brazil is just as young as USA but we have a ton of “old-ish” culture here. The beliefs and stories of the native population merged in with the ones from several incoming cultures and it’s now hard to really separate them, as some are much older than the country itself but are clearly inspired by stories from the old world as well. Some mythical creatures that are good examples of this: Saci, Curupira and the Headless Mule.

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      6 months ago

      What’s the difference between yoghurt and the USA? A yoghurt can develop a culture after being left to rot for 250 years.

  • Belgdore@lemm.ee
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    Lemmy Challenge: accept that there are good things among the 300 million people and 3.8 million square miles of the US

    Difficulty: impossible

    • Mandarbmax@lemmy.worldOP
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      6 months ago

      Fucking preach. I’ve never down voted so many comments on my own post before. Or any post honestly.

  • Makeitstop@lemmy.world
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    6 months ago

    The post: Can we just take a moment to acknowledge that there are at least some positives to be found in in the US?

    The comments: No

    • Honytawk@lemmy.zip
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      6 months ago

      Can’t blame us when Americans see any non-american as second class citizens. As per their laws.

      The bad overshadows the good. And the good is still nothing to write home about either.

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        What do you mean? One relatively unique thing is that the US Constitution protects anyone physically on US soil, not just citizens. There is very little that treats physically present US citizens different from non-citizens beyond voting and certain welfare benefits.

        That said, the police here can absolutely enforce the law unfairly. But that’s not really a problem with the law, but instead the individual police departments.

        As an American, I think there’s a lot we can do better to be more fair, but I also think our system of laws is quite fair in general. We just need to get our police in line and change the “us vs them” mentality in our military and policing. I’d really like it if we would stop bombing people we don’t like and instead strive to open trade routes.

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    Do the guy also love US terrorism and foreign interference? Because that’s what people probably take most offence with. There is not a single additional nation on this planet that has couped to many democratically elected governments and replaced them with corrupt authoritarians that are more than willing to oppress and torture their people and cause civil wars and sell out their nation’s interest to US interests in exchange for power. The US is sole world leader in evil and hase been for over a hundred years, only briefly eclipsed by individuals like Stalin, Mao, Hitler, Kissinger.

    Because as someone who is “deeply critical” of US his government and military, he really seems like jeans and jack o’lanterns have any weight when people call the globally most hated nation on earth a barbaric terrorist shithole.

    And let’s not even start counting warcrimes or threats of acts of war towards their “allies”.

    Fun fact: ask people to name three governments the US has couped. See what happens. Just three.

  • bigboig@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    To me, pointing out, “America has culture too!” Feels dismissive of how the most brilliant “American” cultures developed specifically in spite of being segregated from and exploited by the dominant American culture. It’s not called the bureau of native american affairs for a reason.

    I guess I’m not ready to reclaim an American identity before all others.

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    USA culture will be forgotten when the present empire falls. How much Prussian/ German culture do you consume? Prussia was considered a high watermark for culture, but nobody seems to care about it anymore. And y’know? Good. Because countries who are violent, imperial, oppressive? Their culture deserves to be forgotten.

  • Tar_Alcaran@sh.itjust.works
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    A LOT of things in that list aren’t originally American, or even commonly American. And quite a few others aren’t “culture”.

    My favorite is probably “Victorian houses”. Where did Victoria live again?

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    We provide some of the best and some of the worst this world has to offer. But, that’s also true of a lot of, if not all, countries.

    Motherfucker ain’t even mention bubble gum.

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      American exceptionalism always made me cringe, but it makes me cringe more the older I get. I hate how presidential candidates feel like they have to call the US the most powerful, the greatest, and so on.

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    A lot of fun things listed, but they aren’t going to mean anything to any of us when we’re collectively burned out from working endlessly and incapable of retirement… thanks to America’s capitalists.

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    I think most USA hate comes from the US government’s history of global political interference. It’s understandable. For the same reason that Britain is still viewed negatively in many parts of the world.

    Personally, I don’t hate the US or Americans generally. Things exported from the US whether physically, technologically, or culturally have played a major part of my life. It would be dumb to have a blanket hatred of anything American.

    Most Americans I’ve met have been very friendly and cheerful.

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      Personally, I don’t hate the US or Americans generally.

      ~ Vietnamese Guy circa October, 1955

      ~ Chilean Guy circa September 10th, 1979

      ~ Iraqi Guy circa July, 1990

      ~ Palestinian Guy circa October 6th, 2023

      Most Americans I’ve met have been very friendly and cheerful.

      Most people I’ve met have been very friendly and cheerful. But that goes afield from “culture”. When you start digging into what constitutes a US cultural export - plastic Coca Cola bottles, Ford F-350s and Chevy Suburbans, whitewashed jazz music, 6-year-olds doing beauty pageants, CIA blacksites, Ads on top of Ads on top of Ads on top of Ads, the Protocols of the Elders of Zion - you lose a lot of the characteristic friendliness and start feeling a bit creeped out.

      The young, curious, carefree American traveler is a delight. The old, cynical, covetous American businessman is less so.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        You’re ignoring a lot of the cool stuff that America has put out:

        • Broadway musicals
        • alligator wrestling
        • Cajun food (basically French, African, and Spanish fusion food) and American Pizza
        • a wide variety of music genres (grunge, big band/swing, etc)

        The best thing about America is the fusion of different cultures. It started as a refuse for the oppressed, and its culture reflects that. Unfortunately, it has itself become an oppressor in many ways, but that shouldn’t detract from its unique, blended culture.