Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:36 Sponsor: TuxCare
01:46 KDE’s AI policy
06:42 Existing AI policies
10:06 Going further on AI
12:58 My stance on AI
17:05 FOSS projects: yes or no to AI?
28:02 Sponsor: Tuxedo Computer
Actually happy with Umbriel + Noctalia. Last straw to KDE is I prefer QT over GTK.
Might not be user-facing AI slop tools, but the code sure seems to be more and more AI LLM stuff:
https://discuss.kde.org/t/sorry-to-bring-up-a-contentious-topic-kde-ai-llm-policy/46333 (At least that’s what the pushback from multiple contributors against the notion that perhaps LLM code shouldn’t be fed into KDE, seems to suggest.)
I guess kde publicly addressing AI usage goes to show how much this fear has become mass hysteria
I’m getting a lot of questions about KDE becoming an AI desktop that I feel like is answered by my “KDE is not becoming an AI desktop” video.
Wait, is KDE becoming an AI desktop? Your video is unclear.
I think it is, why else would the video be so insistent it isn’t?
I prefer this response to Gerard’s rant:
Why not ban person A? Being a nazi is a rule violation, but reporting people by barging in on unrelated threads (instead of simply contacting the mods) is also a rule violation.
Somebody else can report the nazi via proper channels, and person A learns the proper way to report people.
MaddieM added even more that I thought was salient in another response:
defeats the point of a CoC (making sure everyone feels safe, particularly minorities who are targeted by fascism)
I’d argue that if we normalize people barging into random threads and accusing others of facism, that would make everybody feel unsafe. Remember that once you normalize this behavior, the fascists can use it too.
… ends up creating a scandal …Very visibly, I might add.
The person who barged in making public accusations, is the one that created a visible scandal. That’s why there’s a proper channel for reports. Precisely to prevent this sort of mess.
Bringing an on-going discussion from outside into a thread with which it bore no relationship, The correct way to proceed is to alert mods, sysadmins or another participant in the discussion privately. What happened is akin to someone walking into a restaurant and seemingly randomly punching another patron. They’re going to get thrown out.
Damn what a completely out of touch response. Many people point out that this was basically a badly handled abuse report that a user brought to a main thread instead of reporting, however that does not and never did justify the original and continued ban of the first person to report on it.
I am especially galled by the “and ad hominem attacks on another user (even if it turned out they deserved it).” bit. Dude, maybe someone’s motivations matter. Acting like attacking someone’s motivations are always out of place is part of what lets this kind of shit fester and grow. Everyone has motivations, and a lot of people’s motivations are deeply unsavory.
Bruh my Kubuntu minimal install. Welp. *sigh que sera sera, we all move on sometime.
Bye bye KDE.
Just use i3 and not KDE lol
or CDE instead of KDE.
Yeah but i3 sucks massively
Or Sway, if you’re on Wayland.
Hyperland if your fancy
incredibly rich to suggest Hyprland as a response to ethical quandaries with KDE
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Well buddy I’m out of the loop and whatever is going on but it seems you know so why don’t you tell me what hyperland did wrong and educate me :)
I see you’re point
