Donald Trump’s bruising return to the White House has sent many longtime foreign allies scrambling to get their distance, and according to a new piece from The Atlantic, that distance will last long after Trump is gone.

Trump’s second term as president has been marked by notable and widespread disrespect toward nations once seen as close U.S. allies. Between his attempts to level massive tariffs against nearly every nation in the world and his frequent breaches of diplomatic norms, Trump has created a hostile global environment in which allies no longer feel safe trusting in the stability of the U.S.

In a new piece for The Atlantic on Tuesday, staff writer Vivian Salama argued that this new dynamic, in which the nations of the world are working to establish a safe distance from the U.S., is bound to become the new normal for years to come, even after Trump leaves office and is potentially replaced by a more traditional, dependable administration.

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    The rest of the world rerouting around us a damaged and dangerous state is fine, the correct course of action even. But hating an entire nation of people for their leader is an ignorant response. In meatspace people have to do what the can to protect themselves from malicious governments like ours. Online, I’m an individual, and so are you. What our governments do means fuck all here.

    I probably hate our government more than you - it almost certainly affects me more. But bigotry is not okay.

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      You will probably have to point out where I said that hating all Americans is ok? I don’t think that I said anything about hating anyone. I said, more or less, that America is a damaged society. Others have pointed this out as well. It’s just best to ignore them, work around them and hope for the best. This crap won’t end with Trump.

      This is a cliche, fair enough, but my best friend is American, and now an Australian. Why would I hate him just for being born in a different place. I’ve also acknowledged that a great many Americans hate Trump. That is immaterial. He’s still your representative, he acts in your name and almost 50% still vote for him. All the rest doesn’t change a lived reality.

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      We can’t change the minds of other people, all we can do is act on the situation we’re in.

      We are going to sooner or later have to take out the fucking trash.

      When the time comes and this shit rises up in other countries like Germany, these countries do not expect help from us nor will they get it.

      Because we’re busy solving our own problems for once.

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        This is a basic thing that will always exist, countries with terrible governments. All I’m saying is to not judge an entire country by its government. Boycott it, hate the government, all fine. But don’t hate the PEOPLE simply because of where they live. Except the ones that support the government, of course!

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          Breaks my heart to see allies turn heel and run so quickly, I would’ve figured a friend in need is still a friend

          We need fucking help

          im ready to fight, but if i go it alone ill wind up like the first assassin, or the second, or the third…

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            Turning their backs on us and removing all their business would be helping! Money and military force is all fascists understand, and throwing their citizens’ lives away isn’t an option. Unfortunately, the billionaire cabals that run the world are international, which is why it’s been kid gloves so far.

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              Man how cool would it be if we all came to the realization that the real issue is the Epstein class, billionaire cabals. They’re building bunkers for a reason

              Rupert Murdoch over in Australia, Felon Musk from South Africa, Zuck Fuckerberg from US, Putler from Russia

              the list goes on and on

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                It would be like when the ants in A Bug’s Life realized they outnumbered the grasshoppers 100 to 1 and ran them out, except it would be more like a million to 1.