There is no internet (let alone social media or body cams) during that era, since Jim Crow in America was still being enforced towards black people at that time, but the civil rights movement is gaining traction (since Martin Luther King was alive). I mean, cop violence has been around for a long time before body cams were invented. How did people hear first hand encounters from those victimized back then without reliance on social media?

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    Often, it just wasn’t well publicised, which is why police - and people friendly with the police - got away with so much more shit than they could now. If there weren’t a ton of unfriendly witnesses, with no video they could just lie. If there was, the papers had the option of covering it, but the average journalist was friendly with the police. They might just make a gentleman’s agreement that whatever incident was either a regrettable mistake, not worth upsetting the public about, or even that it was illegal but good. Things had to get pretty crazy bad before it got reported.

    If you were a black person, you and people you know just very directly felt it. The police could harass or beat you whenever they wanted, which was often enough. And that was on top of the more open racist policies that existed.

    Do consider, as well, that informal violence was more normised. Now, if you punch somebody you probably get charged with assault. Then, brawls happened fairly often, and as long as it stayed fisticuffs, it tended to be considered a personal matter. Which meant getting roughed up by the police probably wouldn’t be considered brutality at all until deadly weapons come out, or it’s an extended beating while you’re restrained.

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    There used to be this thing called

    Having a fucking conversation

    Apparently people just don’t do that anymore from how you’re describing the world

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      Bot training? Ask the same stupid question and feed the different answers into the lie machine.

      I dunno. I just assume anything stupid is nefarious now :/

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    We used to have a thing called journalism. While far from perfect it was a lot better than the sad caricature we have today.

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    Are people starting to forget how society worked before social media?

    People would congregate and talk. They would go to church or participate in various clubs and social events where they would meet their peers and talk about happenings in their communities. Besides that there were a variety of publications where news would be posted in and spread such as local newspapers, magazines and periodicals.

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      You have to remember a lot of kids (I say kids and I am only 27) younger than 30 don’t remember a world before social media or we got exposed majorly at like age 10-12 because our parents didn’t give a shit and also had zero computer literacy and therefore didn’t understand the legit consequences of letting kids online all the time. Like yeah your Gen X parents know how to post their backyard ring camera footage and baby monitor recordings on FB and instagram now? My boomer parents barley know how to work a TV remote and they’re pirating all their movies/tv now. Also still paying for cable? I digress…

      I had a smartphone when I was like 14, now kids are trained on smartphones and tablets before they can even walk. I’m serious it’s 1000x harder for them to ask for something in real words than send an instant message.

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    Just make a black friend and I’m sure they’d tell you all about it.

    Actually, this amazing trick still works to this day!

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    For a big part, they didn’t. Of course in smaller circles people knew exactly what happened, but nationally it was denied or downplayed and covered up by the South. Until sometimes they couldn’t. Like in the Emmett Till case, who was on a family visit from Chicago and was lynched in Alabama. This got a lot of media coverage nation wide for a change.

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    the same way it’ll be allowed to happen once we finish self imposing the AI based panopticon around ourselves – word of mouth.

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    News travelled at lightning speed through the telegraphic poles, see! A modern miracle, see! Faster than a printing press drawn by a score of horses. You won’t believe it until you see it. Bet your bottom dollar!

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    the news? i guess, back then it wasnt a corporate infested giaht ad campaign disguised as the news cycle. But that died together with most of journalistic integrity

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    White people mostly didn’t. Black people talked to each other.

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      The thing is, white people did talk about it. They bragged about doing it with their friends and family who supported them while anyone who didn’t support it looked the other way because they thought it didn’t effect them. People talk, people have always talked.

      Source: I’ve spent almost my entire life living in the Southern US. My grandfather’s generation was basically pure evil and open about what they did. They also raised the Trumpists with their moral perversion.

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        Yeah, racism being well hidden is a much more modern phenomenon. Back then, getting away with it was more about the white people who disagreed looking the other way. Kind of like transphobia or homophobia now.

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        Yup, good point. White people who were involved and related definitely also knew about police brutality, they just didn’t narrate it as police brutality, but rather as righteous behaviors.

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    Emmit Till’s coffin. No, but it was a lot worse back then. People were more violent in general. It was common for fights to break out. Gentility has always been reserved for the upper class. It was expected and the point that the lower classes got roughed up.