An old man patted a child’s head.
I don’t think the head pat is a message that the child is his property.
What type of “retribution” do you think is deserved here? It’s crazy that you would even use that word. Retribution is defined as punishment inflicted as vengeance.
Of course it’s weird to touch people’s heads but your take on this is crazy.
I don’t think the head pat is a message that the child is his property.
What does the child think?
What type of “retribution” do you think is deserved here?
Hard to say. It’s partly why I wonder what they said to each other.
It’s crazy that you would even use that word.
It’s crazy that you’re trying to normalize child abuse.
Retribution is defined as punishment inflicted as vengeance.
Correct. Do you know why? Because the damage was already done. He did not ask before touching, he touched someone else’s child. No one can undo that. We could ask him politely not to do it again, but would that deter him and others like him? No. Show them what happens when they choose to casually violate the boundaries of others.
Why are you more interested in defending the aggressor than the victims?
The father apologized and bought the old man a drink afterwards. It’s obvious that you feel very strongly about this, I understand it could be upsetting
The father should not apologize, the old man should. He got off lucky.
I was abused, so it is a bit of a sore subject. It has been normalized. We need to reverse that. Children are human beings. Old men do not have the right to touch them. It’s alarming that so many people are getting this backwards. Think a bit more, please.
It is wrong to escalate quickly to violence against an ambiguous transgression, especially with someone older for whom a fall can easily be life threatening. The goal of a culture where a stranger doesn’t do that is a correct goal, and one we share - it is achieved by firmly but peacefully correcting the old man but using the incident as a teachable moment for the child. Explain to them what should have happened and why. It’s not too late for them to create a kinder, more respectful culture in time. I think going straight to violence is a misstep on that path, and making amends in the end was the right call.
But now the message is, “old people can touch whoever they want and you’ll be punished for stopping them.”
Earlier, Yeo told Singapore news outlet Channel News Asia that he had patted the little girl’s head because she “was very adorable”.
Stupid, shallow, selfish.
“Old people like to pat young children’s heads,” he said.
That does not make it okay. What the actual fuck?
He added that he started hurting hours after the fall, and that he was taking paracetamol for his pain.
I feel zero sympathy, dude should not have touched a child.
In another post, the elderly man’s son thanked the police for responding to the matter quickly, adding that he sincerely hoped “justice will be served for my father”.
Justice was almost served, but apparently he didn’t get his ass kicked hard enough.
I am worried for you repeatedly concluding that violence is the only way to send a message of disapproval.
You can use your voice, you can use verbal signs like getting up and closer, without touching. Showing that you are ready to physically defend your child if the stranger does not back off right now. There is a huge realm of interaction between “letting it pass” and “violence”
The message the child receives is, someone randomly invaded my personal space and my parent got very upset with this person.
What message does it send to a child to respond to any socially wrong interaction with instant violence.
Being a parent though i can understand the sudden emption causing a violent outbursts. But at least these parents understand after the fact that they could responded better.
But at least these parents understand after the fact that they could responded better.
And the old man and every other pervert have been encouraged to offend again. Really fucked up that you’re not getting this. The old man did something wrong and harmful, and now is pretending to be the victim.
That’s because we live in a complex world where multiple things can be true. Trauma can limit our ability to process this, in my experience. The old man was in the wrong, and he was a victim of violence. I’m not trying to fight you, I just think you might have limited objectivity because of your personal experiences.
When you say “it’s really fucked up that you’re not getting this”, you might be noticing the disconnect between your interpretation of events and the way people who aren’t viewing the situation through a lens of trauma might see it.
I’m sorry if it sounds like I’m using your history against you, those are just the cards I see on the table and just one possible interpretation.
An old man patted a child’s head. I don’t think the head pat is a message that the child is his property. What type of “retribution” do you think is deserved here? It’s crazy that you would even use that word. Retribution is defined as punishment inflicted as vengeance.
Of course it’s weird to touch people’s heads but your take on this is crazy.
What does the child think?
Hard to say. It’s partly why I wonder what they said to each other.
It’s crazy that you’re trying to normalize child abuse.
Correct. Do you know why? Because the damage was already done. He did not ask before touching, he touched someone else’s child. No one can undo that. We could ask him politely not to do it again, but would that deter him and others like him? No. Show them what happens when they choose to casually violate the boundaries of others.
Why are you more interested in defending the aggressor than the victims?
Child abuse 😂
The father apologized and bought the old man a drink afterwards. It’s obvious that you feel very strongly about this, I understand it could be upsetting
The father should not apologize, the old man should. He got off lucky.
I was abused, so it is a bit of a sore subject. It has been normalized. We need to reverse that. Children are human beings. Old men do not have the right to touch them. It’s alarming that so many people are getting this backwards. Think a bit more, please.
It is wrong to escalate quickly to violence against an ambiguous transgression, especially with someone older for whom a fall can easily be life threatening. The goal of a culture where a stranger doesn’t do that is a correct goal, and one we share - it is achieved by firmly but peacefully correcting the old man but using the incident as a teachable moment for the child. Explain to them what should have happened and why. It’s not too late for them to create a kinder, more respectful culture in time. I think going straight to violence is a misstep on that path, and making amends in the end was the right call.
But now the message is, “old people can touch whoever they want and you’ll be punished for stopping them.”
Stupid, shallow, selfish.
That does not make it okay. What the actual fuck?
I feel zero sympathy, dude should not have touched a child.
Justice was almost served, but apparently he didn’t get his ass kicked hard enough.
I am worried for you repeatedly concluding that violence is the only way to send a message of disapproval.
You can use your voice, you can use verbal signs like getting up and closer, without touching. Showing that you are ready to physically defend your child if the stranger does not back off right now. There is a huge realm of interaction between “letting it pass” and “violence”
The message the child receives is, someone randomly invaded my personal space and my parent got very upset with this person.
What message does it send to a child to respond to any socially wrong interaction with instant violence.
Being a parent though i can understand the sudden emption causing a violent outbursts. But at least these parents understand after the fact that they could responded better.
And the old man and every other pervert have been encouraged to offend again. Really fucked up that you’re not getting this. The old man did something wrong and harmful, and now is pretending to be the victim.
That’s because we live in a complex world where multiple things can be true. Trauma can limit our ability to process this, in my experience. The old man was in the wrong, and he was a victim of violence. I’m not trying to fight you, I just think you might have limited objectivity because of your personal experiences.
When you say “it’s really fucked up that you’re not getting this”, you might be noticing the disconnect between your interpretation of events and the way people who aren’t viewing the situation through a lens of trauma might see it.
I’m sorry if it sounds like I’m using your history against you, those are just the cards I see on the table and just one possible interpretation.
How do you know this is a pervert and not just an awkward confused elder?
It could have been a pervert yes, thats why you get up and tell them off. Make it clear that they’re being inappropriate.
Public shaming is incredibly effective in altering future behaviour.
But you don’t actually know their motives.
I also don’t think the old man is pretending anything, it’s seems to be his son who is doing that and talked to the media.
Personally i think that son should realise dad is at a stage where they should not go outside on their own.