• Duamerthrax@lemmy.world
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    https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/document/22540-05-ukraine-could-not-have-kept-nuclear

    Therefore, the general permitted lifespan of our nuclear warheads is 12 years. When they remain in operation beyond the identified term of service, they become especially dangerous for the environment. Ukraine does not have specialized facilities, including the material and technological base, for the processing and production of nuclear warheads. Ukraine cannot create such conditions independently. In accordance with the non-proliferation of nuclear technology regime nobody has the right to provide Ukraine this kind of assistance.

    There’s more in there, but the gist is is that if Ukraine couldn’t have maintained the nukes they had then the USSR fell, I don’t think Russia could have either.

    My point in calling out Putin as a bully is that if he actually has working nukes, he will use then whether or not we abide by his threats or not.

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      11 hours ago

      My point in calling out Putin as a bully is that if he actually has working nukes, he will use then whether or not we abide by his threats or not.

      You seem to be arguing against a position you imagine I hold rather than what I’ve explained.

      Every comment so far has been me trying to re-assert that position and you more or less ignoring it to put your straw man icing on the rest of your comment, like this here.

      It’s like debating if a house is on fire where one half of the debate thinks the other half is only talking about house fires because they think aliens are real, so they spend half their time disproving aliens.

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        9 hours ago

        You assert that Putin will use Nukes if the west helps Ukraine too much. I assert that Putin would use Nukes regardless if he had them.

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          9 hours ago

          Okay yeah that’s where we differ, and I don’t think we’ll be able to convince each other of our respective positions.

          The weird part is when you deviate to try to prove to me (and other readers) that Putin is a bully.

          Putin is very obviously a bully and worse, so it doesn’t make sense to tell me that.