It’s my choice but Arch and its derivatives look like the trend like CachyOS which is #1 right now on visits on distrowatch. Also I’ve heard Google use Debian as gLinux and I feel many other giants also use it and sponsor it and I’m not comfortable choosing it as my distro. Can the sponsors togethwr with students or any other interested use it for their PCs, either coding or ordinary use? It strictly promotes free but worried about giants and sponsors.
I’m sure Debian would implode if any big corp started to make “hostile” changes to it. It was by some considered controversial to include non free firmware by default - that should tell you a little about how much people care about Debian, as including the non free by default is against the core of opensource.
i have debian on my server; if i could go back and use it on my desktop and laptop instead of mint i would too (nothing against mint just love debian)
I personally use DietPI on my headless servers, which is a derivative of debian, and PikaOS on my personal computer, which is the bazzite equivalent of debian. It’s great really :). At this stage, i’ve been so used to debian derivatives that I simply don’t want to use time to learn another distro’s specific ways. I’ve tried mandrake and rpm years ago, but debian simply was the golden standard I used at school and on PI.
I use PikaOS, which is based on Debian. It’s right up there with CachyOS is performance and gaming, and have been using it for over a year with its hyprland variant.
Arch and its derivatives look like the trend
It’s because nobody writes “I use Debian BTW”.
I’ll start now: I use Debian BTW
I do use it, but you are quite right I don’t tend to mention it unless asked.
I use Debian BTW.
I don’t really run around yelling about it. I mostly use derivatives like Mint, Raspberry PI OS (such a dumb rebranding) and armbian , but stock Debian goes on some servers since it just works. I’m not tuning anything nor looking for special packages. Unless there’s a driver issue (old Debian problem), it’ll be boring and work.
Use what tools work for you.
Huge thank you to the Debian devs. You’ve done me good tools for decades now.
Arch people tend to want people to know they use Arch (btw). You’ll also find a lot of posts about getting Arch working.
Debian people tend to be too busy doing other things on their computers besides getting them working, so you’ll hear about it less.
(Important: I’m not dumping on either distro here. Some people, myself included, like Arch exactly because it’s fun to play with and set up. Debian’s older packages tend to mean a more stable system. Use what you like.)
I am a Debian man. All my systems are Debian or Debian based. It just works!
Same here. I got installation media for Potato from a friend of a friend and I’ve been a happy user ever since. There’s been other stuff on my hardware too, and even now there’s (at least) LMDE and Bazzite around, but when I need a system which just works it’s Debian.
Good to know. It’s my distro choice.
Pretty much anything I do is Debian, ive said it quite a bit before so this may be a repeat of previous comments, but…
Its solid, stable, easy to deploy with incredible flexibility and just about everything out there supports it. I do have a few boxes with arch, and they are also just fine - I wouldn’t use it as a server, personally, but its perfectly good for a “very current” approach to desktops/laptops.
I mean I run one arch machine but have 10 ish Debian machines.
I have Arch on my desktop, and all my laptops, but all of my servers run Debian. If you want your machine to have all the latest stuff, then Arch is great. If you want it to Just Work™ all the time without any concerns, Debian is great.
I have Arch on my desktop with the CachyOS repo enabled and the CachyOS kernel and also have all my servers running Debian.
It just works for me.Or NixOS if you want both Debian’s stability and Arch’s rolling releases.
My wife uses Debian and is very happy with it.
She uses it both for gaming and studio recordings with Ardour.Debian has for decades been among the most respected distros in the Linux world, and it still is.
If you want something solid, Debian should be your first choice.Edit PS:
She also uses it for programming occasionally. Debian is an excellent platform for “coding” with its huge repositories.
But most Linux distros are very good for programming, and will have all the common necessary tools readily available.She uses it both for gaming and studio recordings with Ardour.
How is the gaming experience on Debian nowadays? Last time I tried it (several years ago now), it was kind of a nightmare jumping through all of the various hoops required to get it to pay nicely with an Nvidia GPU.
Nvidia drivers do not always play nice with the kernel, and can disrupt high end audio use. If you use Linux you should use an AMD or Intel GPU.
My wife used to use Nvidia, because it worked better for some games, but she finally ended up getting pissed with the proprietary Nvidia drivers, and switched to AMD about a year ago. And now all her games that used to work with Nvidia drivers also work with AMD.
AFAIK Debian support Nvidia proprietary drivers reasonably well today, but for older Nvidia cards you may be out of luck, they can be a real shitshow to get to work if you want to use the proprietary driver.
Best option is to just stop using Nvidia on Linux!
Good to know I just can’t help it cuz I hate Arch and CachyOS. I dont like their websites either.
Personally I prefer an Arch derivative, and neither of us can convince the other. 😋
However we both see the merits of “the other side”, we just have different preferences. But we also have some fun with it if some times. 😎debian has been my first choice since the 90s, but i use arch’s excellent wiki all the time.
If you wonder if “anyone uses Debian” (lol) I’m extremely curious to hear your reasons for hating Arch lmao
Edit: to answer your question, yes. Yes. “Some people” do indeed use Debian
I use Debian on all my servers and virtual machines due to its slow update cadence and leanness.
It sounds like you’re concerned with EEE: embrace, extend, extinguish. While that might be a problem for centralized pieces of software, who are dependent upon revenue streams, core distros like Debian, Arch, Fedora, and openSUSE are developed and maintained by the community (and sponsors).
If sponsors all pulled their funding tomorrow, the projects would not suddenly cease to get updates. By extension, sponsors don’t get special seats at the table just for being a sponsor; it’s not some corporate buy-in where they get 5% voting share for donating $1M to fund hobbyists to work on the code full-time. Likewise, they don’t have special push access to inject “features” (read: enshittification) into the codebase that will eventually hamstring the code. Somebody would notice a bad pull-request and say something.
And even if they miraculously did, the codebase is open source. There are enough motivated people in the world who would fork the code into something free and open again. It’s one of the biggest strengths of FOSS.
Sponsorships help the development happen faster, but sponsors are not the drivers of Linux—we are. Choose the distro you like, and enjoy!
Then why sponsor?
As a sidenote, you might be asking why sponsors would give money to these projects:
- Tax write-off. Many projects are governed by nonprofits, and giving to them gives businesses a tax break.
- They get a better codebase for their own use. If they invest money, they’ll also be getting volunteer labor for free, so it’s win-win.
We have all the servers at work using Debian. It’s rock solid. I use Tumbleweed on home PC and CachyOS on laptop as I do some gaming and having fresh packages might help this. Both works for me.
DistroWatch isn’t an OS ranking system, its a “How many hits” or " “how many recent users claimed to use” a certain system.
This has no real correlation to actual deployed OS in the world.
It’s more of a buzz ranking; like a lot of people went to Debian recently because of Canonical being a less disrable OS builder. So Distrowatch got a ton of Debian searches at the beginning of that switch, but probably way less now.
