China’s armed forces secretly trained about 200 Russian military personnel in China late last year and some have since returned to fight in Ukraine, according to three European intelligence agencies and documents seen by Reuters.

  • Dr. Moose@lemmy.worldOP
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    11 hours ago

    Not the same thing. Russia is a brutal invader, Ukraine is defending it’s sovereignty

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            It’s incredible that you could frame a literal imperial invasion of Ukraine by Russia as everyone else being imperialist. It’s just completely ignorant and has all the energy and logic of a trump decree.

            Russia and the Soviet Union has a very long history of imperialism and colonization and, if that sort of thing bothers you, you should be critical of Russia.

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              Ussr wan never colonialist, in fact they tried to help Korea Vietnam, Afghanistan burhina Faso against imperialism.

              Russia was faced with tho very hard decision. Act as an aggressor now or wait to be invaded later. They would have been portrayed as villains either way so they took the right one

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                Who tf would want to invade russia, and why? There’s nothing but shit there, to a degree that not even all russians can tolerate it, and move out. Even the nice areas that russia has historically invaded have all turned to shit.

                No-one likes you guys, just deal with it and stay in your country. If you feel you need more land, just look east, you’ve got plenty of bog you already own over there, no need to be expansionist little shits.

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                  First of all I am not Russian. This proves how limited you are

                  Russia is the jewel of the crown for western imperialism. The country is not only resource rich but it has a lot of geopolitical influence.

                  I see you are into propaganda but next time try harder because this one does not stick

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                    A wannabe-russian then, that’s somehow even worse! I strongly suggest you go and visit that ”crown jewel” then, I dare you. I have had the opportunity a couple of times and can tell you nothing gives you better view of how things are over there. Though I can only imagine how much more absurd things have become in the past few years.

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        3 hours ago

        Look up the word “defending” and compare it to the word “invasion”. Those are two different things and I think maybe you got mixed up somehow. But maybe you’re not yet ready to hear that.

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        And what plans were there for Ukraine to join NATO prior to the invasion? None? Zero? The deal was already that Ukraine was a neutral buffer zone so the big strong USSR wouldn’t wet their underwear? Did ruzzia show their hand that no country is safe from an invasion regardless of if their in NATO or not? Yes I think they did! They did show they are warmongering dictators.

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          Ukrayne was on that path before 2014 just like all other nations from eastern Europe. Ukrayne was a red line that Russia could not ignore

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            Russia is the fat alcoholic abusive ex that doesn’t want to see his ex girlfriend moving on with a decent fella.

            The best outcome of this war and the one in Iran is that it shows us that the big imperial powers old school methods of power projection are losing relevance as a result of cheap drone warfare.

            Russia absolutely could have ignored Ukraine leaving its sphere of influence, in fact they would be in a much better economic and demographic situation had they ignored it.

            If it wasn’t for the brave Ukrainians being killed by Russia this war would almost be comical given how terribly the Russian armed forces have performed. Failure after failure, I don’t think Russia has much left in the tank. A smart ruler would give up now and consolidate but Putin’s life is on the line here if he does not achieve some form of “victory”. So Vladimir Put Put is going to drag the Russian nation down to hell with him while the Russian population of cucks cry “I am not political!”

            Good riddance to bad orcs, back to the dirt you came from. Even sunflowers won’t grow from your alcohol/krokodil ravaged corpses. I hope Putin dies screaming like the Russian soldiers in the lens of an FPV drone.

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              This is extremely stupid. The standard of living collapsed after the fall of the ussr.

              All that the west has done was to destabilize the eastern Europe and the middle east after that to project their power. If Putin wouldn’t have come to power in the early 2000s Russia would probably be a vassal state of the west now and China would not be where it is today.

              Now on the war part. Ua economy and army was completely replaced by the west. Ua actions make me believe that the west wants to collapse Russia. Instead they are the one being embarrassed. Russia not only did not lose but is still advancing in ua territory despite the 809bn from the west.

              On top of that the economies are collapsing in the west. Many countries chose to ditch us bonds for Chinese ones after the sanctions applied to russia.

              What is happening in Iran is proof that Europe does not afford to open another front

              Enjoy the collapse of the western empire

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        Maybe it’s worth thinking about why Russia’s neighbours are so desperately eager to band together in mutual defense against them.

        Glancing at a history book might help.