• blackn1ght@feddit.uk
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    2 days ago

    The reason for doing so is that we have already met and exceeded all Military objectives

    Ok, so you don’t need a ceasefire, you need to just fucking leave.

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      1 day ago

      The ceasefire is while theyre finalizing the peace agreement. If its all true then its standard.

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          1 day ago

          Do you think peace just magically gets signed one day and people pick up and leave that day? Obviously the process incudes a ceasefire to give time to finalize things and withdraw.

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            5 hours ago

            Actually, often, yes. For example, there were people fighting and dying “in WWII” after a peace agreement had been signed. They didn’t stop for a ceasefire and then negotiate a peace agreement. I would wager this is the norm, rather than a ceasefire while peace is agreed to.

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              5 hours ago

              WW2 ended with Hitler killing himself and Germany doing an unconditional surrender. Thats a lot different than two sides who are still capable of fighting deescalating from conflict to peace.

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                4 hours ago

                Yeah… no. That was VE day only. Also, Hitler dying did not end the war. An agreement still had to be made. WWII ended with the surrender of Japan. Some soldiers were actually fighting for many years after, but still, the average one didn’t get the news until after it was done.

                Meanwhile, WWI fighting ended with an armistice which, while not a full peace agreement, is a declaration to end hostilities. This did happen in a day also. That wasn’t a temporary ceasefire leading into it.

                Again, I’d wager this is how the majority of wars end, especially when communication was slow. The ceasefire seems like mostly a modern thing from my understanding. It’s only really possible with instant communication.

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              1 day ago

              Yea but this chain is about having completed war aims so you should just up and leave instead of signing a ceasefire and finalizing peace. Isreal still says theyve got work to do and was still fighting. Plus isreal attacks from their home so they cant up and leave.