Do you think peace just magically gets signed one day and people pick up and leave that day? Obviously the process incudes a ceasefire to give time to finalize things and withdraw.
Actually, often, yes. For example, there were people fighting and dying “in WWII” after a peace agreement had been signed. They didn’t stop for a ceasefire and then negotiate a peace agreement. I would wager this is the norm, rather than a ceasefire while peace is agreed to.
WW2 ended with Hitler killing himself and Germany doing an unconditional surrender. Thats a lot different than two sides who are still capable of fighting deescalating from conflict to peace.
Yeah… no. That was VE day only. Also, Hitler dying did not end the war. An agreement still had to be made. WWII ended with the surrender of Japan. Some soldiers were actually fighting for many years after, but still, the average one didn’t get the news until after it was done.
Meanwhile, WWI fighting ended with an armistice which, while not a full peace agreement, is a declaration to end hostilities. This did happen in a day also. That wasn’t a temporary ceasefire leading into it.
Again, I’d wager this is how the majority of wars end, especially when communication was slow. The ceasefire seems like mostly a modern thing from my understanding. It’s only really possible with instant communication.
Yea but this chain is about having completed war aims so you should just up and leave instead of signing a ceasefire and finalizing peace. Isreal still says theyve got work to do and was still fighting. Plus isreal attacks from their home so they cant up and leave.
I live in California. I’m pretty fortunate right now to look white, but I have ancestors who were “adopted” from the tribe into white families. It’s one of those nasty parts of history people just euphemise over to feel better about.
Im only bringing it up because being from America you should be able to empathize with being told that your family or friends should go home. Because for almost every American their is no “home” to go to. They’re only citizens of America.
Love them or hate them Isrealis live there and most do not have somewhere else to up and leave to.
Do you think peace just magically gets signed one day and people pick up and leave that day? Obviously the process incudes a ceasefire to give time to finalize things and withdraw.
Actually, often, yes. For example, there were people fighting and dying “in WWII” after a peace agreement had been signed. They didn’t stop for a ceasefire and then negotiate a peace agreement. I would wager this is the norm, rather than a ceasefire while peace is agreed to.
WW2 ended with Hitler killing himself and Germany doing an unconditional surrender. Thats a lot different than two sides who are still capable of fighting deescalating from conflict to peace.
Yeah… no. That was VE day only. Also, Hitler dying did not end the war. An agreement still had to be made. WWII ended with the surrender of Japan. Some soldiers were actually fighting for many years after, but still, the average one didn’t get the news until after it was done.
Meanwhile, WWI fighting ended with an armistice which, while not a full peace agreement, is a declaration to end hostilities. This did happen in a day also. That wasn’t a temporary ceasefire leading into it.
Again, I’d wager this is how the majority of wars end, especially when communication was slow. The ceasefire seems like mostly a modern thing from my understanding. It’s only really possible with instant communication.
Israel will probably just bomb Iran and everything will continue, they still want this war.
Plot twist they bombed Lebanon and the ceasefire is off
Israel already rejected Iran’s terms for a ceasefire and is continuing to attack Lebanon.
Yea but this chain is about having completed war aims so you should just up and leave instead of signing a ceasefire and finalizing peace. Isreal still says theyve got work to do and was still fighting. Plus isreal attacks from their home so they cant up and leave.
funny thing about colonizer countries…
Arent you American?
You make a lot of assumptions about my ancestry
Im asking not assuming.
I live in California. I’m pretty fortunate right now to look white, but I have ancestors who were “adopted” from the tribe into white families. It’s one of those nasty parts of history people just euphemise over to feel better about.
Im only bringing it up because being from America you should be able to empathize with being told that your family or friends should go home. Because for almost every American their is no “home” to go to. They’re only citizens of America.
Love them or hate them Isrealis live there and most do not have somewhere else to up and leave to.