President Donald Trump has warned the U.K. and France that the “U.S.A. won’t be there to help you anymore,” as he vented his frustration over the close allies’ refusal to join military action against Iran.
They never were. We were there for them though. There’s only one NATO country who used NATO article 5 “an attack against one is an attack against all”: the US after 9/11. And the rest came to their aid.
They never were. For decades the US has only been in NATO for it’s own enrichment and it’s own defence. The ballistic early warning radar that the US have in the UK aren’t of any use to us, flight times from Russia are so short that we’d not be able to react. But they do give the US a significant amount of time to be warned of inbound nukes and to do something about it for them.
At least we have time to react when Trump sends the nukes. :)
Draft dodging pedophile says what?
UK should ground all US assets at its air force bases, and tell US “As soon as you cease illegal attack operations, we with rest of world, will return SoH back to normal.” Thank you for your attention on this matter.
I thought he didn’t need help? Never shuts up about how much he’s winning.
I thought America had the greatest army in the world and didn’t want out help anyway
When has America actually helped anyone since WW2? Korea? Kuwait? Everything else was dubious, at best; often crimes against humanity levels of imperialism, corruption, and war crimes.
Most of the cold war was so tense and dangerous because they considered everything other than capitalism — regardless of any populations democratic will and self-determination — an existential threat that warrants warfare and mass murder.
I think the cold war was less about ideology about economic systems and more about alignment with the Soviet Union.
There was plenty of eurocommunism and social democracy in Europe that wasn’t commented on by the US. Relations with the PRC were normalized in the 1970s after the 1961 sino-soviet split.
Technically we were trying to help out France with the Vietnam war
Pete’s Warriors just need a little bit of help. Warriors ask for help don’t they?
Wow, grape army.
Okay, great, let us know if you need a hand dismantling U.S. bases in Europe
Or like in Afghanistan, just leave everything behind and gtfo.
The fool doesn’t understand that any “joint military action” will trigger WW3
The moment anyone else moves to assist he will simply bail out and walk away. He was actually dumb enough to say that out loud too. It would be strategically stupid and politically suicidal for anyone else to get involved.
Pretty sure that’s the intent of whoever is telling Trump what to do.
then THAT “whoever” is a fool. A world war is pretty much the end of the gravy train. They’re dumb if they think they will come out on top.
You need to understand that there is a real faction within the already heinous Nationalist Christians that are even more truly batshit insane than their already crazy baseline, who are genuinely doing their level best to bring about the biblical end times - which, of course just means a nuclear holocaust for everyone. This is not hyperbole. There are people who are actually pushing for that outcome who are part of our regime right now.
I would love to see the day their faces realize they are going to jail as the handcuffs click
I want to believe
You seem pretty confident in that despite the fact that large scale wars have made the current players in this war rich and powerful in the first place.
Look at the outcomes of WWII. The US and Russia emerge as superpowers. Hell, it’s the only reason Israel even exists.
Wars exist because they benefit the ruling class.
You seem pretty confident in that
if you ask me to gamble on starting of a nuclear war vs. it not happening… I wouldn’t risk it.
Look at the outcomes of WWII
I did look at the outcomes. It was quite a different set of circumstances.
- Most of the world did not have Nuclear Missiles.
- We didn’t have Social Media to the extent to allow a small group of people to spread FUD so easily.
- We didn’t have global mega-corps manipulating the fabric of society with impunity. The average CEO is out of touch with workers and only thinks ahead 3 months. There is a lot of arrogance and ignorance about concepts beyond one’s understanding.
- Making Money/Having Clout is the only metric of success.
- Human induced climate change is messing with the ecological system and making it difficult to rely on crops. It will hit hard especially when we are not paying attention due to pointless wars.
- There is a fucking betting market for if a child gets bombed to bits in some part of the world, and a pedophile and his cabinet seem to be doing insider trading on it.
- Every fucker is a racist or facist or adjacent. Empathy has taken a permanent sabbatical.
Wars exist to benefit the ruling class. But if all of the ruling class dies it’s fucking stupid.
Not if the hyper rich all go hide in their bunkers and underground cities
Hell, it’s the only reason Israel even exists.
This is an understandably common view, but it’s not true. The only fundamental change WWII brought to Palestine was weakening the British Empire; Zionists, partially due to British support, were by far the ascendant group in Palestine as early as 1939, so Israel was going to appear as soon as the British left Palestine. Zionist wealth and diplomacy, Arab weakness and division, Western colonial ambitions and British colonial policy made something resembling the current situation inevitable with or without WWII.
Does anyone remember when Zionists bombed a ship full of Jewish refugees in 1940 (SS Patria Disaster) and Palestinians helped save victims from the water and then many were forced out of their homes 8 years later by Zionists?
They want the world to end, so Jesus will come.
That’s utterly delusional. And it’s a shame on sane people like me who allowed such morons to change the destiny of the world.
Us
Speak for yourself. I refuse to advocate for any kind of war. Especially one full of ego and pettiness.
This is a joke. This is the context. I’m mocking the idea that Miller/Hegseth is looking at ww2 and saying “but we can do it”
why you helping yourself? why you helping yourself?
Oh no! Anyways……
Trump speed running making the US irrelevant again.
We don’t need your help, we are satisfied that YOU DO NOT BREAK THE FUCKING PLANET AND THE ENTIRE INTERNATIONAL SYSTEM
The problem, you vainglorious asshole, is that you wouldn’t have been anyway and everyone has realized that. And now that you’ve pissed away all of America’s good will you have no leverage.
We will remember
The usa will be there to help in the future, once trump is dead and gone, but only if there is anything left of it after trump and his cronies suck it dry.
The problem is the views that got Trump elected will still be there in the country for the foreseeable future. So ultimately the USA is not a reliable member of NATO at any point since Trump was first elected. The USA is no longer a member they just haven’t changed the treaties yet. That won’t be going back at any point in the lifetime of anyone who lived through the Trump era.
Democrats will be there to serve Israel once Trump is gone.
The way Netanjahu is speed running things, makes it seem that he may not be counting 100% on that.
