Well, I have been “tested” by neuropsychologists and they said I have symptoms that looks like ADHD, but it’s probably not that. I never pushed more as it’s difficult to get any diagnosis or help here in Quebec as an adult. In the end they said I may have PDA, and they will not give me a straight answer.
I still consider myself nerodivergent but according to the medical system here, I don’t have ADHD. I just have a lot of symptoms that are common.
I went and got “tested” once and was told it is impossible that I have ADHD because I did not commit crimes as a child.
No, seriously. I didn’t steal things, I didn’t fight people, primarily because I was afraid of my dad and his physical punishment. Apparently this is a key lynchpin criteria of an ADHD diagnosis. Never mind that I constantly got into minor trouble for never shutting up, or that I couldn’t sit still, or that I read literally every single book in the entire fiction section of my middle school library in the 3 years I attended that school. Never mind that ADHD-memes groups read like a structural study of my life.
We all know the medical system is flawed and adopts a paternalist / validist approach to neurodiversity (not to mention straight up corruption by big pharma). I don’t want to fetishize self-diagnostic, but if I went to my doctor to say “I’m depressed”, nobody will doubt my experience, so why would it be any difference for neurodivergence.
Put simply, a large cohort of mental health providers will look at anyone asking about ADHD as if they are lying and just fishing for a prescription for stimulants. Especially if you look like you’re college age. So if you get unlucky with who you see when you finally go to get tested they might just take one look at you and decide “This person is looking for drugs” and ignore literally everything you present with because of it.
You very well still could be. Diagnosing conditions like these is very complicated when different things can present similarly, or even mask each other depending on their presentation. Autism and ADHD have a lot of overlap for example where it’s not uncommon for someone to have one and be mistakenly diagnosed with the other because of how their particular combination of strengths and deficits manifested. Then still other conditions can mask symptoms entirely that without them no one would ever guess that someone might have ADHD.
That’s what happened to my wife in fact. She joined a research study that was aiming to improve diagnosis for ADHD looking to be part of the control because she was reasonably certain she didn’t have ADHD.
We come to find out through participating in that study that no, she did in fact have ADHD and her severe OCD had just been masking it all her life. The second she got on a new medication that got her OCD more under control I got a front row seat to literally watch the things I struggle every day with just manifest in her like I’d given her the damn Curse of the Were-Fuckup.
Autism and ADHD are a such a good example for this. While 15 years ago the DSM still said that it is impossible to have both, today we know that there is a huge overlap. Depending on the studies, when you have Autism, there is a 40-70% chance that you also have ADHD. And if you are diagnosed with ADHD, the chances to also have autism are between 20-50%
And there are enough other common comorbidities that could be seen as the “main” diagnosis and prevent you from being correctly diagnosed, like depression, odd, ocd or anxiety.
It’s so important to get a psychiatrist that is specialized and it’s a shame that it seems to be an almost global problem to even get any.
Or maybe it’s time to understand that mental issues aren’t as clearcut as viruses that you can test in a lab. As long as we don’t understand the fine grain of how the whole brain work (and so far we only have ideas about it, not the whole story), the yes/no diagnostic will stay a dead end imo.
Sorry to hear you have trouble though, I hope you still lives ok <3 good luck!
While it’s a lovely notion that maybe one day we might live in a world that doesn’t otherize and pathologize the way the minds of neurodivergent people function. Or that maybe one day the whole of society might not be organized around the convenience and function of neurotypical people and I would love for either of those would either of those to be the case. The fact of the matter is that this is not the world we currently live in. So if someone with ADHD or Autism wanted support from this society in the form of say medication, or therapy, then in most cases they would need to still engage with that system that pathologizes the way their minds work and acquire a diagnosis.
So what good does it do to come into a conversation about the flaws in that diagnostic process and essentially just say “Well, maybe it shouldn’t be like that.” as if anyone here is in any position to just wave a magic wand and change the diagnostic criteria in the next edition of the DSM?
Well, I have been “tested” by neuropsychologists and they said I have symptoms that looks like ADHD, but it’s probably not that. I never pushed more as it’s difficult to get any diagnosis or help here in Quebec as an adult. In the end they said I may have PDA, and they will not give me a straight answer.
I still consider myself nerodivergent but according to the medical system here, I don’t have ADHD. I just have a lot of symptoms that are common.
I went and got “tested” once and was told it is impossible that I have ADHD because I did not commit crimes as a child.
No, seriously. I didn’t steal things, I didn’t fight people, primarily because I was afraid of my dad and his physical punishment. Apparently this is a key lynchpin criteria of an ADHD diagnosis. Never mind that I constantly got into minor trouble for never shutting up, or that I couldn’t sit still, or that I read literally every single book in the entire fiction section of my middle school library in the 3 years I attended that school. Never mind that ADHD-memes groups read like a structural study of my life.
Guess I’ll just fucking suffer I suppose 🤷
Wow, crime that wasn’t something that came up when I got my diagnosis. Impulsiveness, sure, but not criminal enterprise.
We all know the medical system is flawed and adopts a paternalist / validist approach to neurodiversity (not to mention straight up corruption by big pharma). I don’t want to fetishize self-diagnostic, but if I went to my doctor to say “I’m depressed”, nobody will doubt my experience, so why would it be any difference for neurodivergence.
Put simply, a large cohort of mental health providers will look at anyone asking about ADHD as if they are lying and just fishing for a prescription for stimulants. Especially if you look like you’re college age. So if you get unlucky with who you see when you finally go to get tested they might just take one look at you and decide “This person is looking for drugs” and ignore literally everything you present with because of it.
You very well still could be. Diagnosing conditions like these is very complicated when different things can present similarly, or even mask each other depending on their presentation. Autism and ADHD have a lot of overlap for example where it’s not uncommon for someone to have one and be mistakenly diagnosed with the other because of how their particular combination of strengths and deficits manifested. Then still other conditions can mask symptoms entirely that without them no one would ever guess that someone might have ADHD.
That’s what happened to my wife in fact. She joined a research study that was aiming to improve diagnosis for ADHD looking to be part of the control because she was reasonably certain she didn’t have ADHD.
We come to find out through participating in that study that no, she did in fact have ADHD and her severe OCD had just been masking it all her life. The second she got on a new medication that got her OCD more under control I got a front row seat to literally watch the things I struggle every day with just manifest in her like I’d given her the damn Curse of the Were-Fuckup.
Autism and ADHD are a such a good example for this. While 15 years ago the DSM still said that it is impossible to have both, today we know that there is a huge overlap. Depending on the studies, when you have Autism, there is a 40-70% chance that you also have ADHD. And if you are diagnosed with ADHD, the chances to also have autism are between 20-50%
And there are enough other common comorbidities that could be seen as the “main” diagnosis and prevent you from being correctly diagnosed, like depression, odd, ocd or anxiety.
It’s so important to get a psychiatrist that is specialized and it’s a shame that it seems to be an almost global problem to even get any.
Or maybe it’s time to understand that mental issues aren’t as clearcut as viruses that you can test in a lab. As long as we don’t understand the fine grain of how the whole brain work (and so far we only have ideas about it, not the whole story), the yes/no diagnostic will stay a dead end imo.
Sorry to hear you have trouble though, I hope you still lives ok <3 good luck!
While it’s a lovely notion that maybe one day we might live in a world that doesn’t otherize and pathologize the way the minds of neurodivergent people function. Or that maybe one day the whole of society might not be organized around the convenience and function of neurotypical people and I would love for either of those would either of those to be the case. The fact of the matter is that this is not the world we currently live in. So if someone with ADHD or Autism wanted support from this society in the form of say medication, or therapy, then in most cases they would need to still engage with that system that pathologizes the way their minds work and acquire a diagnosis.
So what good does it do to come into a conversation about the flaws in that diagnostic process and essentially just say “Well, maybe it shouldn’t be like that.” as if anyone here is in any position to just wave a magic wand and change the diagnostic criteria in the next edition of the DSM?