The threshold the Israeli authorities have set for the use of a nuclear weapon is dangerously low.

Israeli strategic thinking has long been shaped by the fear of an existential threat. Unlike most nuclear states, whose doctrines revolve around deterrence or competition with other nuclear powers, Israel’s security narrative is rooted in the belief that the country could face destruction if a war turns decisively against it. Israeli leaders have repeatedly framed regional conflicts — from the wars of 1967 and 1973 to present confrontations with Iran and armed groups in Gaza and Lebanon — as struggles for national survival. That mindset matters enormously when nuclear weapons are involved.

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    Them wanting nuclear weapons basically comes from the fact they were regularly attacked by their neighbours every few years. Having them and posturing as willing to use them has effectively calmed that threat since the '70s

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        It’s too complicated to explain in one post here. If you want to know, you might want to read the Wikipedia articles on the middle east conflict, the founding of Israel and all those wars. It might take a while, that conflict doesn’t have easy answers for you

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      I can’t blame any nation or people from WANTING nukes at this point, having them is the only thing that is guaranteed to offer some level of protection. I get that, but the legit doomsday plans created to utilize them, make the actual practicality of them existing an existential threat to humanity.

      Shit the entire message of both the wars in Iran and Ukraine prove that the best thing a country can do to protect itself is to get nuclear program going as soon as possible and then make sure the world knows you have it and are willing to use it.

      And as much as Israel and the US will say that the war is to stop Iran from getting nukes. What good did it do them to try and play ball with the west and get the vast benefits of nuclear power. Not a damn thing.

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        Well they could have tried not supporting attacks on Israel and not enriching weapons grade uranium. It’s especially the latter that got them into this latest pickle

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          Those are the lies we’re being sold, by people who lie constantly about literally everything. Multiple nato inspectors have pointed out that there was never any evidence of them doing this. The PEDOnald is the one that ripped up the nonproliferation treaty with no replacement, and on the eve of Iran negotiating a new one years later, even willing to give up their power plant level enriched uranium, Israel and US launched their attacks.

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            You can look up the IAEA reports. There’s no denying that they were making as much highly enriched uranium as they could starting at the end of 2024

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              Why wouldn’t they, Israel has demonstrated multiple times to be untrustworthy and the US is demonstrably unreliable. Every nation should be getting nukes if this is how the nations that already have them behave towards those without.

              Edit: everyone should tag this asshole as a Zionist mark, they are defending Israel far too much to be considered legit

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                  Not pro nuclear bombs, not pro Iran, however Iran isn’t the one with the nukes.

                  Its either everyone gets a bomb or preferably no one does.

                  If Israel and the US are allowed to have nukes then Iran isn’t allowed to have nukes?

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                  Then you didnt understand a word I typed, no one should have nukes because they doom us all, but because some already do have them any nation/government not trying to get them is doing their people a disservice and putting them at risk. Because it’s apparently the only thing that keeps you from being arbitrarily attacked by governments with them.

                  But you keep going with your “Israel’s fears are legit” schtick when it’s clear they are using that sympathy to carve out a colonial home for themselves and commit crimes against humanity.

                  I hope you have the worst day!

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                    Do you think, say, Mongolia is at risk of being arbitrarily attacked? Should the Phillipines hurry up and nuke up?