The threshold the Israeli authorities have set for the use of a nuclear weapon is dangerously low.

Israeli strategic thinking has long been shaped by the fear of an existential threat. Unlike most nuclear states, whose doctrines revolve around deterrence or competition with other nuclear powers, Israel’s security narrative is rooted in the belief that the country could face destruction if a war turns decisively against it. Israeli leaders have repeatedly framed regional conflicts — from the wars of 1967 and 1973 to present confrontations with Iran and armed groups in Gaza and Lebanon — as struggles for national survival. That mindset matters enormously when nuclear weapons are involved.

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    Why wouldn’t they, Israel has demonstrated multiple times to be untrustworthy and the US is demonstrably unreliable. Every nation should be getting nukes if this is how the nations that already have them behave towards those without.

    Edit: everyone should tag this asshole as a Zionist mark, they are defending Israel far too much to be considered legit

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        Not pro nuclear bombs, not pro Iran, however Iran isn’t the one with the nukes.

        Its either everyone gets a bomb or preferably no one does.

        If Israel and the US are allowed to have nukes then Iran isn’t allowed to have nukes?

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          Would you prefer a world where everyone has nukes, or no one?

          Which direction do you move us in when you give them to Iran?

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            I don’t want Iran or Israel to have nukes.

            The point is one country having a nuke pushes others to have a nuke.

            Which direction does Israel move us in when they physically have them now?

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              Is it a good thing that the second country gets a nuke as well?

              In this case, Iran is ruled by a doomsday cult theocracy where let’s say 10% of the population controls the other 90% as cattle. They honestly believe that their only purpose in life is to defeat Satan (literally translated into Israel and the US by their scholars) and then they can literally go to heaven and party like it’s '99

              Now you can say a lot about Israel, and I’m going to repeat that I don’t want them to have nukes, but the comparison between a democratic Israel and doomsday cultist Iran is just…

              A slight but very important bit of a difference that a lot of lemmings have lost sight of after seeing, sadly, too much videos of Palestinian toddlers being blown to smithereens

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        Then you didnt understand a word I typed, no one should have nukes because they doom us all, but because some already do have them any nation/government not trying to get them is doing their people a disservice and putting them at risk. Because it’s apparently the only thing that keeps you from being arbitrarily attacked by governments with them.

        But you keep going with your “Israel’s fears are legit” schtick when it’s clear they are using that sympathy to carve out a colonial home for themselves and commit crimes against humanity.

        I hope you have the worst day!

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          Do you think, say, Mongolia is at risk of being arbitrarily attacked? Should the Phillipines hurry up and nuke up?

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            Both of your examples absolutely should, Mongolia is resource rich and insanely underdeveloped, that will be a target of imperialism in short order if they don’t. The Philippines are more or less under US control already but if they had nukes they sure as shit wouldn’t be. Until no one has nukes the countries with them cannot be trusted to act in good faith any longer. The US, Israel, and Russia have demonstrated that with both Ukraine(who had nukes and then gave them up under the pretense of protection from the largest threat to them with nukes - Russia) and Iran.

            Get nukes if you want to keep your people safe is the message of geopolitics over the past 20 years. I dont like it but its the correct strategic position if you are attempting to safeguard a nation. Its fucked up but its the reality of the situation.

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                Do you believe the American and Israeli regimes should? I think all three should be destroyed and the world would be a much better place for losing them.

                Iran being a theocracy doesn’t make this war just it’s just a flimsy excuse for Israel and the US to control the region. It’s never once been about Israeli security.

                I will not respond to you again. I hope your day is as good as a Palestinian child!

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                  A few posts up you were saying everyone should have nukes to protect themselves, now you’re saying you want at least three of them destroyed

                  It’s commendable that you care for Palestinian children but I don’t think you’ve really thought about how a nuclear armed Iran would help them