Hey, I remember you from when I used to browse imgur. I always enjoyed your image dumps. :D
Thank you! I’m doing other shit now.
Yeah I’m tired of the GNOME hate so I checked out pretty quick and here’s a rant.
I basically, I want 2 things.
- A WM that just works with modern interfaces.
- A DE that disapears 99% of the time when I’m actually using my computer and shows me just enough to get to my next task when I ask.
GNOME does this. In my opinion KDE doesn’t.
If the process of making your prettiest UI is the thing you’re using your computer for then KDE seems optimized for you but that’s not me.
I don’t want to see the UI. I don’t want to spend time messing with the UI. I want to make it small and black the first time I log in. Maybe change a keybind. Then I want to split screen a terminal and a browser and get to work.
This is GNOME. It’s fine. Stop crapping on people who like that and
And before you asked, I daily drove KDE for several years like a decade ago but got tired of fighting with it. I tried KDE again late last year and it’s gotten a lot better and I’m sure someone committed enough could trim it down the way I want. I tried a couple times and to its credit, I almost got there before getting hidden widgets or broken widgets that caused me to wipe everything and start over. I used to crash the widget manager regularly so it seemed better. But it felt slower and I never was really happy with it so… Not worth the effort.
GNOME is one of the most common desktops used, don’t let loud users decide what you can and can’t enjoy. By the way, I hate GNOME.
Gnome with paperwm is goated. The best DE is the one I don’t think about where everything is always “there”. All I ever really want is a bunch of windows in an arbitrary non-overlapping arrangement and some energy/bluetooth/network gizmos. I do not want to use menus. Ever.
“The K in KDE stands for Korrect”
You’re goddamn right it does.
Nice keyboard
Xmonad!
On KDE I couldn’t get Steam to put my game library on my second harddrive. It would open up the file finder, then simply ignore whatever folder I picked (regardless of drive and folder permissions). I was able to recreate the issue on Gnome under wayland, but X11 works fine. I even tried making a symlink to the other drive in my home directory, no dice. Tried flatpak steam as well as valve’s installer script; nada.
Interestingly, it seems that the “pick a folder” button in Steam opens up a contextual file search window in X, but just a regular nautilus instance in Wayland. I’d say that this is the problem (the regular nautilus/dolphin instance not reporting back to Steam what folder I selected), but it works for moving to different directories, just not drives (in both DEs). Same thing happened on Fedora, so it’s not just “Debian is too outdated.”
But let’s be serious, if I wanted to spend a lot of time tweaking and tuning my graphical environment to be exactly what I want, I’m not settling for Gnome nor KDE. I’m not gonna go with Cinnamon, XFCE, LXQt, LMDE, MATE, nor any ecosystem. I’m going with a window manager and mixing and matching every single program/element myself.
I use i3 on my laptops. I would use Sway (because I don’t have to care about Steam), but for some reason it’s like 5x as resource hungry on these machines (constant freezes and stuttering).
Were you using the flatpak version of Steam?
What does any of this have to do with KDE, Gnome, or nautilus? If symlinks aren’t working, I’d dedicate an entire drive to Steam by mounting that drive (with matching permissions) right where Steam expects to find them. You can mount a filesystem/disc/ISO/drive/network share practically anywhere you want. If your network is fast enough, I bet you could even access your games over NFS, though I wouldn’t recommend it.
It doesn’t matter where or how I mount the drive, the problem isn’t the drive; idk how I could have made that clearer.
What does any of this have to do with KDE, Gnome, or nautilus?
The problem only happens under KDE and Gnome on Wayland; the nautilus thing was just a curiosity. Did you read my comment?
Almost guaranteed a Flatpak thing. I know you said X11 versus Wayland was your issue, but likely some quirk of the two window managers was allowing it to work.
Adding the drive path in Flatseal or installing non-Flatpak Steam would likely fix it.
I’d be curious if using https://gist.github.com/davispuh/6600880 or configuration files for Steam that would be the kind of things fixed bypassing integration bugs in the UI. I didn’t try as I didn’t have that problem.
I use XFCE for it’s philosophy of modular being better.
That desk with 3 monitors too close to the keyboard and face give me some agony. Seems like they’re trying to engulf me. For me, the advantage of a desktop is being able to put both the keyboard and monitor at a comfortable distance, what I can’t do with laptops. But well, maybe that’s the comfortable distance for the one uses that machine.
Guess I must be an alien then. (That’s ‘pure’ sway – no toolbars, icons… nothing. I use my own dmenu-esque app to run binaries.)
Wow, not even a bar/swaybar/waybar. That’s radical, alright.
guess i’m boring then
