• azimir@lemmy.ml
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    9 hours ago

    I presume it’s the same kind of deal Stalin and Hitler forged about Poland.

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      9 hours ago

      So why would Putin sign it if he knows that the US will keep pushing to break up Russia?

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        7 hours ago

        It’s interesting to see the divergence of people eating Russian propaganda to the MAGA propaganda.

        But I’ll bite for a second - when has any US official spoken about breaking up Russia? (Not USSR)

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          7 hours ago

          A National Security Advisor wrote this:

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Chessboard

          But it is not so important what they write but what they do. The US wage illegal wars and military operations and do regime changes for resources, like Iraq, Venezuela, Argentina. Russia is an inevitable target with its resources.

          Putin has offered cooperation until 2001 and beyond, but the West has stalled. Why would anybody do that and avoid world peace if not for hostile reasons?

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            7 hours ago

            The west has been cooperating with Putin since he first got into power 25 years ago and was sending over 150 billion dollars a year Russia’s way for those resources. Do you put as much foreign policy weight into Medvedev’s recent threats to nuke the UK as you do some dude who was Jimmy Carters national security adviser 50 years ago in his book published 30 years ago.

            You are eating up Putin’s anti west “The west are trying to steal Russia’s resources, it’s certainly not me and the rest of the Russian oligarchs doing it right under your noses” propaganda.

            The only one avoiding peace is Putin who invaded Ukraine remember?

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              sending over 150 billion dollars a year Russia’s way for those resources.

              That’s just market value and not a form of support. It’s more an argument for why the West has a motive to take over Russia than it is an argument against it.

              Do you put as much foreign policy weight into Medvedev’s recent threats

              That’s apples to oranges. One is the overall strategy and the other is the last option. Without the Western threat there would be no need for nukes. It all starts with US resource wars. The rest is consequences.

              You are eating up Putin’s anti west “The west are trying to steal Russia’s resources, … propaganda

              Calling it propaganda doesn’t make it wrong. Is the West not stealing resources globally? Why would Russia be spared?

              The only one avoiding peace is Putin who invaded Ukraine remember?

              Which would put Russia at the receiving end of a hybrid war until it is dissolved.