It’s odd to see Americans siding with Russia, to be honest.

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    14 hours ago

    America (the government) is siding with Russia. Americans are not.

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      Then they need to stop their government.

      Until then, it’s Americans, because they collectively are responsible for their government.

      Now, I guess I’ll take excuses again.

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      13 hours ago

      Trump still has an approval rating of 30%. And those mfs are in favor of everything Trump does, including siding with Russia.

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          30% don’t give a fuck and/or are easily manipulated into not voting so it doesn’t really matter. The world has long given up hope on America righting the ship until you all prove otherwise. It’s been a decade of y’all pushing the line back. Can’t imagine you are one country in 50 years.

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          If the best the other 70% can do is throw dildos at nazis, then yes it does.

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          It does make a big chunk of a country. A few rotten apples spoils the whole bunch, as the saying goes.

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          If more than 30 % do not care at all, less than 30 % are actually opposed and 30 % are like this… well guess what that means.

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      Musk made the call to limit their connection.

      Who the fuck voted for him?

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        13 hours ago

        He’s the CEO of the company that owns the sats. Unfortunately he can do that if he wants. I’m glad it happened. Yet more fuel for the fire to get away from American tech. We will never recover our world leadership, America’s done.

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          It’s wild to think that the frontrunner in miltech and modern tactics is going to be Ukraine in future wars. The big powers will be begging to collab on their huge practical knowledge.

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      13 hours ago

      Other countries are accelerating plans. While I’m glad the world is ditching our tech, we need a kick in the teeth, I hate to see several competing constellations up there.

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        I’d hate that, too. But I fears it’s pretty inevitable by the logic of the world we live in. The Ukraine war has shown the military importance of such a system and Musk has made clear that having control of it is a strategic matter. So prepare for every block of power in the world to want their own constellation…

        I hate how our future is turning into the shittiest Sci-Fi I can think of.

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    It’s insane that obscene wealth has made him an American potentate, with great influence over not only our domestic policy, but foreign as well.

    Not because Elon is strong, but because America is weak.

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      Between him being given massive government contracts and Melania being the first lady, I don’t think America really has a problem with illegal immigrants. Just the poor illegal immigrants.

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        Nah, America loves poor illegal immigrants, too. They’re super exploitable what with the constant fear of deportation. They’re just not allowed to feel like equals.

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    The fascist right sure are distilling a super capable super advanced foe for themselves without meaning to. I look forward to the day they find out Ukraine trained the modern allies to kick their asses in the next world war.

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    18 hours ago

    I wonder if this is Putin directly threatening Musk with the destruction of Starlink. Starlink is SpaceX’s only profitable business. It brings in over 60% of the companies revenue. Though if Russia initiated or accelerated the Kessler syndrome, everyone would be pissed so probably a bluff…

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      he did turn it off in 2022, right when putin was getting mad, and shortly after he met with putins propagandist team in QATAR i believe(car racing events).

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      I’m not sure that it would be practical to take out starlink. They’re small satellites in an enormously large space. I guess we don’t know what we don’t know about space weaponry.

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        If something travelling retrograde in the same plane as starlink were to fragment, it could easilly destroy thousands of satellites. Mostly temporary, since stuff at that altitude will fall to earth inside a year or so without propulsion.

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      Its far easier and more likely that Putin has compromat on Elon and is just telling him what to do. Its the most likely reason Trump and Elon are in lock step over the Ukrainian Starlink problems. Putin is really pressured over the recent increased range of Ukrainian attacks and wants it to stop so will risk his prime assets.

      Even trump isn’t dumb enough to think the pitiful amount of fuel he buying from Putin will impact fuel prices in the US, but it does give Putin some signifcant short term funds for laundering Iranian oil.

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        Iran is making out gangbusters from this whole shebang. Tolls on shipping, more cash from the US via Russian drone orders. It’s almost like Trump & co. are imbeciles.

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      That would be an another incredible display of stupidity and lack of insight on Musks part. Folding to a mere threat is worse than any physical attack for starlink as a defense contractor. Russia almost certainly lacks the ability to significantly damage the constellation, while losses would be covered by insurance and other means. Forcing Putin into action would either call his bluff or show his hand. The world would see a demonstration of Russian ant satellite technology and be able to adapt. A kinetic approach would probably go Kessler syndrome and even if not, it receive very severe international condemnation and pushback from everyone with a space program including China and India. A electronic attack would get a workaround eventually and still piss off everyone who operates in that hemisphere.