They keep alluding to migrants being the violent ones, am I understanding this correctly? Also they mention this was organized crime basically? Any facts to back that up?
I’m wondering how they actually plan on addressing the root issue here of wealth inequality and cost of living issues… The country’s finances are not doing well from what I can see…
I scanned the reddit frontpage today like I occasionally do to see if there’s any news that hasn’t hit the Fediverse yet… and let me tell you, the propaganda bots are out in fucking force because I saw numerous videos of the French protests where it was black masked jerks harassing individuals, stealing, looting. Of course it was in the “usual suspects” of subs like /r/publicfreakout.
At least three posts within the first two pages of results on reddit when you’re not logged in that are nothing but videos and comments dragging the entire protest.
There is a concerted effort to make the claim the students never cared about education, they just wanted to criminally wreck everything. I don’t know who, but someone with a lot of money is pushing this narrative hard.
we have no way of knowing what’s going on, all we know is that there’s at least 1 ethnically french person rioting, at least 1 black person rioting and at least 1 student who’s rioting. among those groups, we don’t know whether it’s (99%, 1%, 1%), (1%, 99%, 1%) or (1%, 1%, 99%).
Just like at every single protest in France. People protest legitimately, a few assholes come in to just break stuff and throw punches, media and politics focus on these.
Sounds a lot like protests in the USA. Minneapolis remembers black umbrella man setting the AutoZone on fire, giving the cops a chance to regroup, and became something the media focused on and it wasn’t proven he was a white supremacist agitator until later… and the news had moved on by that point and that was mostly only covered by smaller publications. New York Times wasn’t about to give an expose about how right wing agitators helped the police have a police riot. Not once did our media refer to it as a “police riot” even though beating the living shit out of angry citizens because you murdered an innocent is a police riot.
Tbh it’s completely legitimate to be angry at the oligarchy and to attack its capital within reach. Illegal, of course, yet legitimate. The politicians will use any excuse to hunt you down anyway, regardless of how peaceful one’s actions are at the protest. They never play fair.
Check out the threads about this on r/ArchitecturalRevival and r/Lost_Architecture. Just thousands of comments blaming immigrants. As if only immigrants have just spent weeks protesting the government. I could swear this is a concerted effort to spread this message
They should really be blaming a capitalist system that places zero value on the past.
Like house flippers who remove all personality from houses and turn them into drab, grey, “modern” bullshit that nobody actually likes except losers who don’t have taste of any sort.
I saw the same, there is definitely a campaign going on right now. My guess is trying to rile people up about immigration, fire up the base for the US midterms.
I wish I could disagree with you but it seems US voters are so fucking stupid and racist that immigration in a country halfway across the world is enough to get them angry and motivated to vote.
Lol, migrants. Everyone’s pissed af because there is no future, rich fucks keep getting richer and everyone else trying to survive. That’s not about migrants
Nah that’s propaganda. The violent ones are mostly the police, and the occasional dipshit. It started with highschoolers/college kids wanting decent learning conditions. As in, having teachers, chairs to sit on, not wanting rats in classrooms,and school not crumbling onto them.
The answer to that from the government was to send riot police and maim the kids. Then all the media focused on the material damage, and it went downhill from that. The government spends more daily to squash the protest than it would have helping the kids.
Then the yellow jackets started to organise again as well and planned on having a big protest yesterday. It went smoothly for the most part, except for the police (unsurprisingly) pepper spraying protesters left and right before the protests even began. Then it went downhill because of rioters and looters (a sizable portion of them being cops, caught in camera, again, unsurprisingly), and the historic town hall of Limoges burning down (I don’t think we know who started the fire yet).
Basically it’s the government gaslighting us, and blaming us for material violence after 10 or so years of systemic and institutional violence.
They keep alluding to migrants being the violent ones, am I understanding this correctly? Also they mention this was organized crime basically? Any facts to back that up?
I’m wondering how they actually plan on addressing the root issue here of wealth inequality and cost of living issues… The country’s finances are not doing well from what I can see…
the public broadcaster of Belgium today called them ‘professional rioters’. No follow-up explanation, just casually planting that seed…
I scanned the reddit frontpage today like I occasionally do to see if there’s any news that hasn’t hit the Fediverse yet… and let me tell you, the propaganda bots are out in fucking force because I saw numerous videos of the French protests where it was black masked jerks harassing individuals, stealing, looting. Of course it was in the “usual suspects” of subs like /r/publicfreakout.
At least three posts within the first two pages of results on reddit when you’re not logged in that are nothing but videos and comments dragging the entire protest.
There is a concerted effort to make the claim the students never cared about education, they just wanted to criminally wreck everything. I don’t know who, but someone with a lot of money is pushing this narrative hard.
we have no way of knowing what’s going on, all we know is that there’s at least 1 ethnically french person rioting, at least 1 black person rioting and at least 1 student who’s rioting. among those groups, we don’t know whether it’s (99%, 1%, 1%), (1%, 99%, 1%) or (1%, 1%, 99%).
and frankly i don’t think it matters either.
Just like at every single protest in France. People protest legitimately, a few assholes come in to just break stuff and throw punches, media and politics focus on these.
Sounds a lot like protests in the USA. Minneapolis remembers black umbrella man setting the AutoZone on fire, giving the cops a chance to regroup, and became something the media focused on and it wasn’t proven he was a white supremacist agitator until later… and the news had moved on by that point and that was mostly only covered by smaller publications. New York Times wasn’t about to give an expose about how right wing agitators helped the police have a police riot. Not once did our media refer to it as a “police riot” even though beating the living shit out of angry citizens because you murdered an innocent is a police riot.
Tbh it’s completely legitimate to be angry at the oligarchy and to attack its capital within reach. Illegal, of course, yet legitimate. The politicians will use any excuse to hunt you down anyway, regardless of how peaceful one’s actions are at the protest. They never play fair.
I mean, presumably many of them. The number one reason bad policy happens is that it makes the rich richer.
Check out the threads about this on r/ArchitecturalRevival and r/Lost_Architecture. Just thousands of comments blaming immigrants. As if only immigrants have just spent weeks protesting the government. I could swear this is a concerted effort to spread this message
They should really be blaming a capitalist system that places zero value on the past.
Like house flippers who remove all personality from houses and turn them into drab, grey, “modern” bullshit that nobody actually likes except losers who don’t have taste of any sort.
I saw the same, there is definitely a campaign going on right now. My guess is trying to rile people up about immigration, fire up the base for the US midterms.
I wish I could disagree with you but it seems US voters are so fucking stupid and racist that immigration in a country halfway across the world is enough to get them angry and motivated to vote.
Musk
Almost assuredly.
Lol, migrants. Everyone’s pissed af because there is no future, rich fucks keep getting richer and everyone else trying to survive. That’s not about migrants
That’s what I was thinking… This article at least twice alludes to it being gangs of migrants or something doing this…
Seems a bit too convenient of an excuse if you ask me…
Nah that’s propaganda. The violent ones are mostly the police, and the occasional dipshit. It started with highschoolers/college kids wanting decent learning conditions. As in, having teachers, chairs to sit on, not wanting rats in classrooms,and school not crumbling onto them.
The answer to that from the government was to send riot police and maim the kids. Then all the media focused on the material damage, and it went downhill from that. The government spends more daily to squash the protest than it would have helping the kids.
Then the yellow jackets started to organise again as well and planned on having a big protest yesterday. It went smoothly for the most part, except for the police (unsurprisingly) pepper spraying protesters left and right before the protests even began. Then it went downhill because of rioters and looters (a sizable portion of them being cops, caught in camera, again, unsurprisingly), and the historic town hall of Limoges burning down (I don’t think we know who started the fire yet).
Basically it’s the government gaslighting us, and blaming us for material violence after 10 or so years of systemic and institutional violence.
Not pepper spraying, using CS gas. Otherwise all correct.