Coverage of The Grayzone has focused on its misleading[25][26][27] reporting, its criticism of American foreign policy,[1][2] and its sympathetic coverage of the Russian, Chinese and former Syrian governments.[32] The Grayzone has been accused of downplaying and defending the persecution of Uyghurs in China,[33][37] of publishing conspiracy theories about Xinjiang, Syria and other regions,[38][39][40][1] and of publishing pro-Russian propaganda and disinformation, especially during the Russian invasion of Ukraine.[36][40][31][1][41]
I’m sure the CIA was up to a few things, and there are probably some bad elements in the Ukrainian armed forces, and I disagree with conscription (on both sides), and not allowing men between 18 to 60 years of age leaving (though even if they were, who’d take 10s of millions of Ukrainian men, assuming most would even want to leave Ukraine (and even despite the hardships)?).
And they were utilized in the 2014 coup as the core of the Euromaidan.
I don’t know if it can be called a coup if the Ukrainian parliament was involved and Yanukovych (wp article) was unpopular.
I think he should have been allowed to finish his term if was set to end later that year, but IIUC, he was on his way out.
Did you know the slogan “Slava Ukraini” in the complete form (“Glory to Ukraine! Glory to the Heroes!”) has been created by the banderites who fought with the NAZIs during WWII, and now been adopted as the official military greeting? The same banderites who massacred a 100.000 poles Wikipedia article. This is reality.
The phrase first appeared at the beginning of the 20th century in different variations, when it became popular among Ukrainians during the Ukrainian War of Independence from 1917 to 1921.[1]
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Ukrainian historians argue that the greeting has its roots in Taras Shevchenko’s works.[5][6] In his 1840 poem To Osnovianenko, Shevchenko used the phrase “Glory of Ukraine”:[7][8]
The same banderites who massacred a 100.000 poles Wikipedia article. This is reality.
and that was very bad what Ukrainian nationalist did.
However, according to the article, this was between 1943 and 1945, when Stalin, and his ally, Hitler, made a pact to invade Poland and divide it between them. IIRC, 22% of Poland’s population died in that war.
No one looks completely good in this, and my support for Ukraine isn’t absolute.
(FWIW, after much contributions in r/Ukraine, my 2 reddit accounts (including my main one that had over 100 000 karma points) were banned from that subreddit, and now have been banned site wide. DMBFFF and Putinstartedthewar (Putin started the war) because I gave some slack for the Russians (and even DMCMNFIBFFF) got banned (different reasons, I think).)
Historical facts are now denounced as Russian propaganda like reality and truth just doesn’t mean anything any more.
Didn’t Putin essentially tell Tucker Carlson that he doesn’t think there really is such a thing as Ukraine?
They are not driven by any ideology, opportunists like MAGA.
MAGA sounds bad enough.
Like they don’t believe that Russia is evil because they are just acting in their own best selfish interest, and they’ll believe the same about the US and other states too.
Yes, but Putin’s authoritarianism isn’t helpful to Russia, and his invasion of Ukraine kind of proves it.
Indeed, to this extent, it kind of parallels Trump.
Trump’s taking Maduro was a relative cakewalk, but now he’s again stuck in the “Forever War” in the Mid-East, in this case Iran. I’m sure a few in the state department told him, or would have loved to have told him, that invading Iran would be as “easily” as Iraq, except that Iran has more people, is (IIRC) over 2x the size, and has a lot more mountains.
Putin had a bit of a cakewalk in Crimea when Ukraine was, if you will and IIUC, fucking around and being corrupt. It was less easy for Putin when he started to stir things up in Donbas. Then 8 years later, he might have thought that he’d take Kyiv in 3 days, and now it’s over 4½ years later. (perhaps not too much like Trump boasting that he’d settle the Russia-Ukraine problem the day he was elected—which was over 23 months ago)
For the cost of the war, Putin could have better developed Russia, or maybe land Russians on the Moon.
Now he’ll be remembered as an authoritarian bully that wants to crush Ukraine, including murdering Ukrainians and trafficking Ukrainian children where they will be taught to hate Ukraine and kill Ukrainians, all because Ukraine won’t bend the knee to the Kremlin and dallied with joining NATO, which Putin has made far more attractive to Russia’s neighbors.
So talking points like “Putler will soon march and take Berlin” is defeated by a simple: What would he gain by actually doing that?
I’m not sure if I heard that. Controlling the governments of his neighbors would suffice, and getting Germany to leave NATO would be extra. He might be doing that with the AfD.
Sadam was a hitler. Gaddafi was a hitler. Assad was a hitler. The Ayatolla was a hitler.
All of whom were dictators who murdered 10 000s if not 100 000s.
All who were very bad.
but back to my question:
Europe really deserves the fascist takeover by AFD/LePen/Reform that is inevitable coming next.
When do you think these parties will take over Germany, France, and UK?
So in answer to your question: “sooner than expected”.
I don’t think any of them will have German chancellery, the French presidency, British prime ministership, nor the majority of their respective countries’ legislatures: not this year, not next year, not before 2030, and perhaps not ever.
Kit Klarenberg
I don’t think I ever heard of wt:thon.
Let’s see: wp:The Grayzone.
I’m sure the CIA was up to a few things, and there are probably some bad elements in the Ukrainian armed forces, and I disagree with conscription (on both sides), and not allowing men between 18 to 60 years of age leaving (though even if they were, who’d take 10s of millions of Ukrainian men, assuming most would even want to leave Ukraine (and even despite the hardships)?).
I don’t know if it can be called a coup if the Ukrainian parliament was involved and Yanukovych (wp article) was unpopular.
I think he should have been allowed to finish his term if was set to end later that year, but IIUC, he was on his way out.
wp:Slava Ukraini
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and that was very bad what Ukrainian nationalist did.
However, according to the article, this was between 1943 and 1945, when Stalin, and his ally, Hitler, made a pact to invade Poland and divide it between them. IIRC, 22% of Poland’s population died in that war.
No one looks completely good in this, and my support for Ukraine isn’t absolute.
(FWIW, after much contributions in r/Ukraine, my 2 reddit accounts (including my main one that had over 100 000 karma points) were banned from that subreddit, and now have been banned site wide. DMBFFF and Putinstartedthewar (Putin started the war) because I gave some slack for the Russians (and even DMCMNFIBFFF) got banned (different reasons, I think).)
Didn’t Putin essentially tell Tucker Carlson that he doesn’t think there really is such a thing as Ukraine?
MAGA sounds bad enough.
Yes, but Putin’s authoritarianism isn’t helpful to Russia, and his invasion of Ukraine kind of proves it.
Indeed, to this extent, it kind of parallels Trump.
Trump’s taking Maduro was a relative cakewalk, but now he’s again stuck in the “Forever War” in the Mid-East, in this case Iran. I’m sure a few in the state department told him, or would have loved to have told him, that invading Iran would be as “easily” as Iraq, except that Iran has more people, is (IIRC) over 2x the size, and has a lot more mountains.
Putin had a bit of a cakewalk in Crimea when Ukraine was, if you will and IIUC, fucking around and being corrupt. It was less easy for Putin when he started to stir things up in Donbas. Then 8 years later, he might have thought that he’d take Kyiv in 3 days, and now it’s over 4½ years later. (perhaps not too much like Trump boasting that he’d settle the Russia-Ukraine problem the day he was elected—which was over 23 months ago)
For the cost of the war, Putin could have better developed Russia, or maybe land Russians on the Moon.
Now he’ll be remembered as an authoritarian bully that wants to crush Ukraine, including murdering Ukrainians and trafficking Ukrainian children where they will be taught to hate Ukraine and kill Ukrainians, all because Ukraine won’t bend the knee to the Kremlin and dallied with joining NATO, which Putin has made far more attractive to Russia’s neighbors.
I’m not sure if I heard that. Controlling the governments of his neighbors would suffice, and getting Germany to leave NATO would be extra. He might be doing that with the AfD.
All of whom were dictators who murdered 10 000s if not 100 000s.
All who were very bad.
but back to my question:
I don’t think any of them will have German chancellery, the French presidency, British prime ministership, nor the majority of their respective countries’ legislatures: not this year, not next year, not before 2030, and perhaps not ever.