That feels like a bit of a goalpost shift. The comment I replied to was already comparing the sadism of Israelis and Nazis. To be clear, I wasn’t defending Israel, and I wasn’t even saying that what the Nazis did was worse. I specifically said I’m not sure. I didn’t take your initial point to imply certainty either. My point was just that the Nazis were hardly slouching in the sadism department themselves.
I’m not aware of Nazis shooting children in that particular way, you’re right. But I’m also unaware of an Israeli equivalent of Mengele. So I’m not really sure where we actually disagree here.
The Nazis knew what they were doing was horrific and they hid it from their own people (very well documented). Israel glorifies their sadism, is very open about it, and it’s encouraged by the majority of the population (also very well documented).
The premise here is that Israel is worse than the Nazis because of their full throated support for the genocide and genocidal actions. People can argue in terms of numbers (because apparently human suffering has to be quantified to compare tragedies), but Israel is very much the winner when it comes to institutionalized sadism that has wide and knowing support from the citizenry. And that’s why people say that Israel is worse.
Sniping children’s body parts as a game definitely sounds more sadistic than Nazi Germany.
I’m not sure about that. https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/children-during-the-holocaust
And while he was just one guy, look up Mengele as well - what he did to twins in particular.
While we can sit here deliberating brutality, let me know when it was institutionalized games.
That feels like a bit of a goalpost shift. The comment I replied to was already comparing the sadism of Israelis and Nazis. To be clear, I wasn’t defending Israel, and I wasn’t even saying that what the Nazis did was worse. I specifically said I’m not sure. I didn’t take your initial point to imply certainty either. My point was just that the Nazis were hardly slouching in the sadism department themselves.
I’m not aware of Nazis shooting children in that particular way, you’re right. But I’m also unaware of an Israeli equivalent of Mengele. So I’m not really sure where we actually disagree here.
Not sure what goal posts have been moved. Both comments are of the sadistic game of sniping kids that’s institutionalized in the IDF for decades.
There is no single equivalent of mengele, but the torture death camps exist
https://www.btselem.org/sites/default/files/publications/202601_living_hell_eng.pdf
The Nazis knew what they were doing was horrific and they hid it from their own people (very well documented). Israel glorifies their sadism, is very open about it, and it’s encouraged by the majority of the population (also very well documented).
The premise here is that Israel is worse than the Nazis because of their full throated support for the genocide and genocidal actions. People can argue in terms of numbers (because apparently human suffering has to be quantified to compare tragedies), but Israel is very much the winner when it comes to institutionalized sadism that has wide and knowing support from the citizenry. And that’s why people say that Israel is worse.