• T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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    11 hours ago

    Look, fuck russia sideways with a rusty fork, but I dont think they would attack nato. It would be suicide

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      37 minutes ago

      I think Putin will, but only when he’s finally on the ropes with Ukraine or internally.

      Then he’ll attack NATO in order to provoke a response - the the prospect of full-scale war with NATO (and full mobilisation of the sons and daughters of Moscow and St. Petersburg) will allow Putin to secure a quick peace treaty that will likely force him out of Ukraine, but since it wasn’t Ukraine that beat him, but ‘all of NATO’ he’ll be able to avoid the window himself.

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        7 hours ago

        I mean, when the cia under Biden warned it was coming, I felt he was pretty certain. In any case I hope I am right and russia doesn’t try to properly attack a nato country

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          4 hours ago

          Biden warned the world days beforehand, everyone was like this same “yeah bro Russia’s attacking tomorrow, haha, for sure bro” until the tanks rolled across the border.

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        9 hours ago

        Yes they havent “explicitly” targeted a nato country, as per an attack, at least not so intentionally as to cause the other nato countries to respond with direct action.

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      11 hours ago

      Xi Jinping is literally, actually in the fucking White House, right now, and Trump just spent the last week telling Ukraine to stop attacking Russian fuel.

      It would be war and they’ve got a pretty good chance of winning since they’ve already defeated NATO’s largest force.

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          6 hours ago

          Correct. Russia and China have effectively defeated the USA portion of NATO because I truly believe Trump and the GOP would refuse summons from an Article 5.

          Russia and China are the reason Trump is president.

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            6 hours ago

            Maybe. Trump’s power is waning, and it’s hard to predict exactly what he would do anyway. It’s likely democrats will control congress next year and can send aid. If Europe can hold out until 2029, a different president might be more willing to provide active support.

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              5 hours ago

              With 53 GOP senators Trump is all powerful in the USA. They already purged the military generals and the rest of the federal government employees.

              Resistance is coming from local and state levels which means fuck all for NATO.