I’m not quibbling over the definition of “plenty” (a word I did not say) when people are arguing that being born in Israel makes you far right, on a thread about two Israelis being threatened with murder for exposing the genocide to an international audience. Do we really need to have a ‘where you are born is not a moral statement’ discussion?
You are arguing against someone who said 80% of Israelis want to go further, in response to someone saying “plenty” of Israelis weren’t right wing. You trying to strip out the context and simplify things to “individual Israelis might be ok” is pointless blathering in a more focused conversation that is less “where you are born” and more “are you in favour of ethnic cleansing”.
Maybe not pointless. Quite useful to a certain viewpoint.
pointless blathering in a more focused conversation that is less “where you are born” and more “are you in favour of ethnic cleansing”.
So that’s a yes, we do need to have the ‘where you are born is not a moral statement’ discussion? Because ‘Israeli’ is a nationality, not a political ideology. You are describing a political ideology while ascribing it to everyone born there–which includes people who are ethnically Palestinian–on a post about two Israelis doing more for Palestinians than everyone in this thread put together. You seriously don’t see the ridiculousness in that?
You’ve completely ignored the content of my post, please understand I’m not ignoring yours, I’m asking you to re-read it: we are speaking about statistics (only 1 in 5 opposing genocide is not "plenty). You didn’t say “plenty” but you are very poorly defending someone who did - and you are appealing to individuality in a conversation that has nothing to do with individuals . You might as well argue about the existence of free will in a discussion of an election.
You think 1 in 5 people not in favour of finishing the genocide is “plenty”?
I’m not quibbling over the definition of “plenty” (a word I did not say) when people are arguing that being born in Israel makes you far right, on a thread about two Israelis being threatened with murder for exposing the genocide to an international audience. Do we really need to have a ‘where you are born is not a moral statement’ discussion?
You are arguing against someone who said 80% of Israelis want to go further, in response to someone saying “plenty” of Israelis weren’t right wing. You trying to strip out the context and simplify things to “individual Israelis might be ok” is pointless blathering in a more focused conversation that is less “where you are born” and more “are you in favour of ethnic cleansing”.
Maybe not pointless. Quite useful to a certain viewpoint.
So that’s a yes, we do need to have the ‘where you are born is not a moral statement’ discussion? Because ‘Israeli’ is a nationality, not a political ideology. You are describing a political ideology while ascribing it to everyone born there–which includes people who are ethnically Palestinian–on a post about two Israelis doing more for Palestinians than everyone in this thread put together. You seriously don’t see the ridiculousness in that?
Ugh.
You’ve completely ignored the content of my post, please understand I’m not ignoring yours, I’m asking you to re-read it: we are speaking about statistics (only 1 in 5 opposing genocide is not "plenty). You didn’t say “plenty” but you are very poorly defending someone who did - and you are appealing to individuality in a conversation that has nothing to do with individuals . You might as well argue about the existence of free will in a discussion of an election.