• acargitz@lemmy.ca
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    16 hours ago

    Scientists argue that the indiscriminate use of Earth’s resources by humans has led to environmental effects, ranging from biodiversity loss to climate change.

    Motherfuckers will find it easier to imagine genociding half of humanity than ending capitalism.

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      16 hours ago

      Lol, what do you think indiscriminate use of resources is? That’s literally capitalism!

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        15 hours ago

        Unless you’re an ecofascist neonazi, in which case the same phrase gets interpreted as “use of resources by the wrong kind of people”.

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      14 hours ago

      Genocide is unneeded. Population levels decline naturally as people urbanize. Just keep moving people into cities and industrializing farming and the problem will solve itself.

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        Not with capitalism. Look at countries that do not take in many immigrants. South Korea and Japan are the results of what you’re talking about.

        It’s not just about industrialization. The exploitation of labor under capitalism still requires bodies to build its alter. The contradictions of capitalism are the primary problem. Value comes from labor. The profits of capital come from labor. They don’t want “less people”. They just want you to hate other workers and see them as “the problem”.

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          22 minutes ago

          They will get less labor whether they want it or not. They are banking on being able to fill it in with AI.

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          13 hours ago

          Jfc, I’m not castrating anyone, just asking nicely - consider not making more. Maybe 8 billion is plenty.

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            Cool. You can “say that”. But that doesn’t happen. People have kids.

            Come up with one idea or policy that actually results in people having less children? Because that’s what the comment you replied to is saying. They are talking about the inevitable policies that come from the “just have less” ideas.

            The idea is pointless if it just lives in your head. Would be great if everyone that read this comment gave me $1. But no one’s gonna do that unless I actually had a reason for them to. The reasons to place on people to have less children either don’t work or are human rights violations.

            You sound like the dumb “smart guy” that says “we could have world peace if everyone just smoked weed everyday”.

            You don’t solve something by coming up with a solution with no means of reaching it. Hell, it’s not really a solution, it’s just a conclusion. It’s why the “population problem” is so good for propaganda. It redirects the problem and distracts stupid people that haven’t actually thought through how that would work.

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        Absolutely! Famously non capitalist countries have no capability of funding studies. Nope. Hell, we’d never have gotten the first satellite or first person into space without capitalism! Everything good comes from capitalism! And everything bad, yeah, it’s socialism. And if it’s REALLY bad, it’s communism.

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          I was under the impression non capitalist countries never existed after its invention. At least, thats what I’m told by communists any time I criticize a “communist” country.

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            Communism is, by definition, “a classless, moneyless, stateless society”.

            When people say “no communist countries have existed” this is what they mean. Because that’s not ever been achieved.

            There are countries that are run by communist parties (China). But these are not countries that have “obtained Communism”. You are confused because you never looked up the definition of a communist society.

            For example, China is a country run by the Chinese Communist Party under a state structure of Socialism (with Chinese characteristics).

            Since you don’t understand basic definitions I doubt that you’re criticisms of “communist countries” were very insightful.

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              What do you mean? I’m pretty dumb so typing slowly would help. If good things happen it can be attributed to communist leadership but if bad things happen its still capitalisms fault? Coz that’s what it sounds like.