• thethrilloftime69@feddit.online
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    5 hours ago

    Religious extremism doesn’t sprout up in a vacuum. It is created by a lack of resources and opportunity. Resources and opportunities that have been taken from people by foreign/Western governments that refuse to let the middle east be stable. The West has collectively overthrown dozens of democratically elected governments in the region going back at least a century. If your grandparents can’t ever remember a stable life and you lack the resources the learn about your circumstances, you will use the only stable pillar in your life as the basis for your revenge.

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      5 hours ago

      This shit happened in the EU…they have support there, stop making excuses for violent extremist. The middle east has been at war with itself way before the Soviets invaded…yea you forgot about those guys invading Afghanistan didn’t you…

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        5 hours ago

        The middle east has been at war with itself

        Before World War 1 the middle east was under the rule of the Ottoman empire. So they weren’t at “war with itself”. Part of the terms of the end of if ww1 was most of the region was carved up by the victorious allies. One of the things they did was install Western friendly governments. The British also forced Israel on Palestine. Then the US overthrew a democratically elected government in Iran leading to the inevitable blowback of the Islamic Revolution in 1979.

        Maybe you should read some history before you make ridiculous claims.

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            3 hours ago

            So the middle east was just as violent as Europe? Ok Cool. The middle east isn’t inherently more violent than other places. To say that is incredibly racist.

            People are people. They need resources to build proper lives. Lacking that, they believe they have to fight. Western governments figured out last century that in order to win the global economic war, they need oil. So they need governments friendly to them in order to secure access to those resources. Acting like this is just an ancient conflict that has no answer is ignorant.

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              24 minutes ago

              So the middle east was just as violent as Europe? Ok Cool. The middle east isn’t inherently more violent than other places. To say that is incredibly racist.

              Where did I say Europe hasn’t been at war with itself for centuries? Get you’re Whataboutism the fuck out of here. You suggested the middle east was at war and violent because of western powers. I provided facts that, that’s bullshit…and now you’re pulling some Whataboutism bullshit.

              People are people. They need resources to build proper lives. Lacking that, they believe they have to fight. Western governments figured out last century that in order to win the global economic war, they need oil. So they need governments friendly to them in order to secure access to those resources. Acting like this is just an ancient conflict that has no answer is ignorant.

              There are multiple states in the middle east that are using said oil to be more prosperous…so you’re point is bullshit again.

              And please tell me how ramming a car into a pride parade is somehow fighting the good fight…

              You’re being tolerant of the intolerant.

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            4 hours ago

            I wouldn’t say it is western powers per se. But it is the oligarchy. Be they western or not. They cause the wars, often using religion as an excuse. But first they deprived the people of the resources and opportunities which drove people to religion. That made it easier for the oligarchy to control them by giving them an organized set of things to be upset about. So religion is really just a tool.

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              22 minutes ago

              Sure, but you’re not seeing other poor stripped nations having their citizens kill LGBTQ+ persons and blame it on western powers. It’s such a cop out to use this excuse.