This is DISGUSTING! TELLING people about how Israelis RAPED you is ANTI SEMETIC!
-Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer!
This is a country that proudly raped prisoners in Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay.
It’s a country that believes prison rape within the state system is part of the punishment for criminality. Literally “don’t drop the soap” used as a threat aimed at people accused of crimes.
Old enough to remember how D.A.R.E. officers would recount sexual assault in prisons as a means of scaring people off drug use. Americans deeply and indelibly believe in the power of corrective rapes. It is embedded in our culture.
I mean, the only reason most of the founding fathers have descendants is because of the rapes, so its pretty much a founding principal
Previous boss was a Coastie that was deployed for prison duty. I made a lot of snide rapist comments when I was pissed at him.
No really, you’re recognizable for it but why
What is the deal with the uppercase?
It’s their schtick.
People don’t understand Israel is at total war with everyone. If they’re friendly to you, it’s because you’re low on the list and they’re using you and collecting kompromat/info on you. If you’re higher on the list they’re bombing and shooting your children.
This is all part of the “Never again to us” mentality, for this they’re a horrible and derranged country. They’re fascists, and don’t stop at Palestine, they’ve already “settled” areas of Syria and Lebanon.
They’re despicable, bad neighbours, and cannot be trusted, even by allies.
I think “Never again to us” part is for the Zionists just propagandistic sloganeering rather than being heartfelt.
Maybe about 10% of Israelis are descendants of people who actually suffered directly or indirectly from the Holocaust (the origin of the overwhelming majority of Israelis is Russia and the Middle East, not Western Europe), the rest only have one thing in common with the victims of the Holocaust - they have the same Religion.
Now, unless one believes in a Jewish Hive Mind or some other kind of special (never demonstrated to exist) system that via nothing more than ethnicity propagates from person to person the pain and suffering of being a victim, it’s clear the overwhelmingly majority of Israelis (or, in fact, of Jewish People) are NOT victims or the Holocaust - no doubt they have an intelectual understanding of it, might even have been taught to fear that it might happen to them, but they certainly have not felt the pain nor actually empathise with people who feel that pain because neither they nor their close family or friends were ever in that situation.
(BTW, this probably explains why just a bit over 80% of the Israeli population supports what’s being done in Gaza).
However, the “racial victimhood” is a core element of ethno-Fascist propaganda, so specifically the Zionists have leveraged the shit out of claiming that the entire ethnicity which they claim to represent are victims, sometimes just to obtain beneficial treatment that people that ethnicities which aren’t portraid as such don’t get, other times such as now for the much more nefarious purpose of having extra leway whilst they commit their very own Holocaust on people of ethnicities they call “vermin”.
Worse, the use of such racial victimhood stories by the ethno-Fascist is mainly meant to induce fear of the other in the people whose ethnicity they claim to represent - just like the NAZIs before them, the Zionists claim that doing what they say is the only way for the people of the ethnicity they claim to represent to be protected from further victimization - in the process increasing the power of the ethno-Fascists, the Racism of the population and their willingness to commit the most inhumans of acts against those the ethno-Fascists deem “or enemies” because its “what we must do to save our race”.
In simple terms, the Zionists are leveraging the Holocaust to make it more likely that people who did not suffer from the Holocaust and only share an ethnicity with those who did, will support and even commit their own version of the Holocaust on those people whom the Zionists want to steal from, subdue and even murder.
I feel like the holocaust is just publicity for the zionist. All the politicians here take money from AIPAC.
I had a holocaust section each year after 5th grade passed between history and english classes. This has made me keenly aware of the depravity occurring in Gaza.
They expect the programming to shield them into perpituity as we watch them commit the same acts we were raised to have disgust for. I never learning a thing about jews or israel, no explanation for the nazi’s hatred.
I remember in college there was always a weird old man holding a “save palestine” poster during football games back on 2017. That was really the only time I saw hints of an issue, which I ignored because I just thought he was a crazy homeless.
It’s shocking to me that Isreal culture is so tolerant for evil. It makes humanity feel more predictable, easy to manipulate, almost animal. No values or principles able to stop a modern genocide. It’s numbing.
I agree with much of the intent of what you’ve said, but your revisionist and exceptionally inaccurate history is really going to bias people to ignore you.
The holocaust did not occur in a vacuum and was the culmination of centuries of antisemitic violence across all of Europe, from Western Europe but certainly throughout the Russian empire. In fact, Zionism arose as a capitalist ethnonationalist aligned response to the incredible waves of pogroms that were sweeping through the flailing Russian empire. It’s very hard to distinguish this era of European history along tight geographical lines–that is to say, any Eastern European descended Jew, in Israel or elsewhere, almost certainly has a direct family connection with the overall context of the holocaust.
With that said, you are certainly right that an enormous proportion of Israeli Jews, approximately half, are from the middle east. Hell, there are multiple sub-dialects of Arabic associated with these many groups (Judeo-Arabic).
Ultimately, Zionism never justified itself primarily based upon the holocaust because it predates the holocaust by damned near a half century. Obviously, the holocaust and history of pogroms feed significantly into the Zionist narrative, but you have to understand thag Zionism is unquestionably an artifact of the ascendant moment of ethnonationalism that was taking place as the old colonial empires and monarchist systems of power began to fall.
It was also spearheaded by wealthy capitalists. Most of the time time, if the question right now is why is something so fucked up, the answer is “because capitalists.”
Israel is the country of rape, torture and genocidal mass murder. That’s its reputation in the world now, and we all see it clearly.
industrial scale pedophilia too. And making a sport of shooting hungry kids in the head as they play in the dirt in rags.
Because they lost every last shred of humanity. Has been a while since that happened to a whole country…
When did they ever have it?
People forget this but Israel was founded with Genocide. Against Jews during the holocaust, yes, but also against Arabs in the region during the Nakba, so that the Zionists could carve out their ethnostate. This is not new behavior for them. They’ve literally been doing this for decades.
Most of the Zionist immigration actually occurred before the Holocaust. In fact, the Zionists were actively refusing Jewish refugees because they would have “tainted” the movement.
https://palestinenexus.com/articles/eugenicism
From the late 19th century through the 1950s, Zionist leaders adopted a selective immigration policy designed to exclude ‘undesirable’ Jews.
Menahem Sheinkin described them as “miserable paupers, depressed and patched up, with bundles like rag-merchants, the poorest of the poor, who could not possibly be a blessing to the country.”
By the early 1900s, an office was established in Jaffa to screen Jews hoping to settle in Palestine. Menachem Sheinkin and Arthur Ruppin reviewed application letters sent from prospective migrants and told 61% of them not to come, primarily because they were too impoverished.
I sympathize with those who suffered due to antisemitism over millenia and during the holocaust. But I have zero sympathy for fascist colonials who created founding myths based off the suffering of others that they actively turned away.
Pissrael Nazis literally raped Palestinian civilians with dogs. This happening to flotilla activists is par for the course. If they had been Palestinian women their fate would have been much worse. This is all well known stuff - the most moral army in the world uses rape as a weapon.
Europe doing nothing about Israel kidnapping and raping their citizens tells you all you need to know.
State sponsored rape and murder, but if you phrase your criticism of Israel in the wrong way, instant censorship in the west.
I hope she’s doing better…
Israel has a “right to exist” the same way Rhodesia, Belgian Congo or Nazi Germany did.
Israel should have handled that way more elegant. See theres just a bunch of teens on a boat, seize it, invite them to some kind of PR Dinner with a diplomat of some sort and deport them home with a huge handling fee. Treat them nice with a fat bill. Sun Tzu would be proud. Instead they do this…
Why are you carrying water for people who literally raped people who were giving fucking aid?
IDF used dogs to torture human beings with rape. Your fantasizing about a more sane but still evil Israeli state is very telling,; that you see no issue with misrepresenting the adult floatilla activists as teens to try to discredit them in contrast to a genocide regime when that simply implies the IDF raped teenagers shows how morally numb, if no complicit you are in this discourse.
They probably are this brazen because they are narcissistic sociopaths that keep getting away with their crimes
Rape prisoners? With dogs? Even mentioning the fact is nowt antisemitism. Murdering children? All fine because opening your mouth is antisemitism
For a long time the world was told about how horrible Jews were treated during WWII and yes, that was a horror show to which we said: never again
And here we are…
Yes, they could do that. Why didn’t they? Is it because Israeli citizens actually expect their government to torture and kill people?
“Rape” she means strip-searched.
The third time Anna Liedtke was subjected to an illegal strip-search in Israeli detention, female prison guards forced her on to her knees, covered her mouth to stop her screaming and raped her…
The victim and the article distinguish between the already-illegal strip search and the sexual assault.
When she refused, guards pulled off her clothes, groped her and forced her to kneel. One of them inserted her fingers into Liedtke’s vagina and then her anus, Liedtke said.
Fuck you
To respond to your edit: rape was accurate, even with the pretense of a strip search. Do not tell us what she meant. You are trivializing what happened to her.
This is embarrassing. Read the article
Tell me you didn’t read the article without telling me you didn’t read the article:
"Israeli law defines rape as all non-consensual penetration.
. . .
When she refused, guards pulled off her clothes, groped her and forced her to kneel. One of them inserted her fingers into Liedtke’s vagina and then her anus, Liedtke said.
“There were two and then later three female soldiers that told me to take off my clothes,” she said. “They started touching me. I said no. I told them I don’t want to be touched and that they were hurting me. Then they grabbed my hands, so I couldn’t move, then they pushed me down and I still tried to scream, and then they covered my mouth so I couldn’t scream.”"
That meets the legal definition of Rape under Israeli law.
Even in cases, like Trump in New York, where it only becomes sexual assault:
https://www.courthousenews.com/narrow-focus-on-rape-definition-wont-get-trump-a-new-trial/
“The finding that Ms.Carroll failed to prove that she was ‘raped’ within the meaning of the New York Penal Law does not mean that she failed to prove that Mr. Trump ‘raped’ her as many people commonly understand the word ‘rape,’” Kaplan wrote. “Indeed, as the evidence at trial recounted below makes clear, the jury found that Mr. Trump in fact did exactly that.”
I hate the lax use of the term too. but that one incident really was that.
Sometimes I see comments downvoted a lot and I can’t understand why.
