• SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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      6 hours ago

      Sure, but shooting rockets at everyone in the neighbourhood including civilians isn’t defending oneself. What Iran is doing is terrorism, attacking civilians in an effort to pressure the governments in the region.

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        6 hours ago

        Which is exactly why I used the phrase typically used to excuse Israel’s actions.

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          Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis all fire rockets at civilian population centers in Israel. Counter-attacking them can be considered Israel defending themselves.

          Bahrain, Kuwait, Qatar, Jordan and Oman have not fired rockets (or weapons of any kind) at Iran. Counter-attacking the US and Israel would be defending themselves. What Iran is doing by not limiting themselves to counter attacking those attacking them is creating terror in the region. They’re being terrorists.

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            So your whole argument is about labelling this or that side “terrorist”? This is about moralizing an illegal war? Cry me a fucking river.

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      8 hours ago

      The distinction is that Iran didn’t attack the US back. It attacked its neighbors.

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        7 hours ago

        But Iran did attack the US back.

        Iran usually attacks US military bases, equipment and personal which are harboured by their vassal states surrounding Iran.

        The USrael usually mass murder school girls, flatten hospitals or call civilians terrorists to excuse their slaughter.

        Also, AP frames it as if the initial attacks stem from Iran towards ships in the Strait of Hormuz, all the while ignoring, that part of the MoU was for Israel to stop the ethnic cleansing and annexation of southern Libanon, which of course they didn’t adhere to.

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          Sure no one doubts Iran’s motivation is outrage. So calling their actions as “lashing out” seems appropriate. If they only hit the US back, it would be called a “counter-attack” or something along those lines. Firing rockets at everyone in the neighbourhood is a strategic mistake, obviously emotionally motivated.

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        7 hours ago

        Good to look at other sources and claims. AP news has been getting more shoddy with their editing and language. They’re not as unbiased as they used to be even a few years ago.

        https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/iran-declares-strait-hormuz-closed-unauthorised-vessel-hit-2026-07-11/

        In response, the Guards said they had destroyed a command-and-control centre and drone hangars in U.S. ally Jordan, targeted a U.S. radar site in Kuwait, attacked U.S. aircraft carrier support and refueling platforms in Oman and destroyed a jet maintenance centre and command facility in Qatar.

        Note: and Reuters published this a full day before AP news. So this claim and quote from the IRGC was already available and public knowledge, but AP news took a full day to get more information and not include it.

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        7 hours ago

        Agreed, if they’d struck back at US the headline would read-

        ‘US attacks Iran over ship being hit in Strait of Hormuz; Tehran Retaliates’