What an absolute shitshow
What an absolute shitshow
I’d say the month of June is actually a good time to be breaking and fixing things in a release that is due to come out in (checks notes) October.
The project hasn’t had a stable release, and yes, it does certainly need more testing to uncover edge cases.
Yes, MIT bad, but one must not diss on the project just because it has been written in Rust.
The problem isn’t the language. It’s the cargo cult that surrounds it.
I see what you did there
I disagree with MIT License being bad. I agree on all other fronts of your statements.
MIT is terrible if it replaces current GPL projects. Companies will always provide their spyware infested proprietary version of the exact same thing which have one or two additional features, making open source software always behind rhe propruetary counterparts. See: Chromium->Google Chrome, Aosp->any Android os vendor
People will blame Rust for the incompetence of Ubuntu team to adopt the uutils as default prematurely.
When i’m in the most unnecessary competition and my opponent is rust coreutils:
Memory safety anyone?
GNU Coreutils have worked very well for so long so replacing it is totally pointless unless memory safety has crippled the project somehow till now.
Also I really hate that project for another reason - License
Yep. And more distros support so theres more incentive to fix any issues that have popped up. Plus theres more c devs in the world than rust.
Rust is faster and easier to develop in than C. It’s also safer.
What’s wrong with the uutils license?
Rust is absolutely not faster or easier than C. It’s safer but that’s it.
The issue with the rust utils license is that its MIT. Which many people see as vastly inferior to GPL. This is a very big deal to people who believe in the GPL.
GNU coreutils are a copy of Unix utils themselves.
It is definitely easier.
Don’t try and tell me cargo is not easier than fucking around with the C/CPP build slop I’ve had to screw around with over the years.
The coreutils license is bullshit but let’s not pretend languages have not improved in 50 years.
Yeah, the only real issue I have with the “rewrite it in Rust” approach is the absolute plague of permissive licensing. It is much easier to write safe, correct code in Rust.
I think it depends on the project, when writing cp you’re not really messing around with libraries so good ol make is fine
Rust is absolutely not faster or easier than C. It’s safer but that’s it.
Depends on what you mean by “easier”. It is easier to write safe code in Rust.
Memory safe!
Not any other kind of safety.
Yes, that’s what Rust is about.
Depends on what you do, really.
Dangers of this project:
- compatibility in edge-cases
- experts of their tool vs. jokel of all
- maturity of the code
- scope creep
No, it does not depend on what I do. In Rust it is by definition easier to write safe code than in C.
Im so happy work stopped using ubuntu server after last time.
Also how the heck do you break cp of all things.
I dont want to experiment with core utils.
cp of all things
cp might sound simple because its a very necessary thing for an OS to do, but there’s quite some technical depth to each of the core utils, if it were simple people would just be pumping out coreutil practice projects just like they do with “generic CRUD web app 5000”
Give me 10 minutes and I’ll write you a cp that is completely fucked.
