• motruck@lemmy.zip
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    18 minutes ago

    Yep. Not even once. Bring the web back to its roots. Fuck all these grifters.

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    6 hours ago

    Probably gonna get hate for this but like… Yeah if I had the option to pay for more things and not be tracked and dataharvested, I would. The infrastructure and support isn’t free. What’s really shit is when they do both… The prices should be lower, like way way way lower, but middlemen all want their cuts for transactions so you’ll almost never see subs for under a dollar.

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      I mean I get where you’re coming from, but imo we shouldn’t have to pay to not be tracked and data harvested. You can run ads and have them not be creepy stalky, it’s only greed to maxmize profits that pushes companies to go for the stalker option.

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      Just because you pay a subscription to avoid ads does not mean your data is not still being harvested and sold. The big exception is now they have a payment method tied to a specific person not just an ad profile.

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        5 hours ago

        That has more to do with what apps you chose to use and give them your data.

        But people still don’t get the basic principle “if you don’t pay, you are not the customer, your are the merchandise being sold”.

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          Yep. Like proton started out immediately as a secure alternative. I’d trust them. I imagine tuta and others as well.

          As for the rest (Google, meta, tiktok) I’d say there is zero chance your data would ever hope to never be harvested.

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        Never said I trusted the company, just that it would be preferred if that were the case. At least with paying customers there’s an incentive to be pro-consumer. If Proton was snooping on all your shit I think they’d have fewer customers. Likewise I pay for Kagi, primarily for the features and services they offer, but improved privacy is part of the sales proposition; yes they could make more profit selling customer data but that would be a pretty big reputation hit.

        Do I trust them not to? No, but "maybe they won’t " is better than “they absolutely must”

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          What good is adb if they system is blacklisting install by this developer?
          Imo it is over for android, yes that’s the point.

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            Adb installs bypass all that, and without adb nobody could make and test android apps so they would have no apps to sell.

            That said I think looking into Linux phones is a good idea because Google are a scumbag company.

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    8 hours ago

    Yeah that happens a lot with the model most apps and platforms use. The venture capital today, figure out how to actually become profitable tomorrow. That transition is usually messy.