America may hold Israel’s leash, but AIPAC holds the GOPs balls in a vice.
Remember, Trump is signing this surrender document because he sees this as the least damaging option politically.Now he’s going to have to weigh the damage of a full scale war with Iran against the damage of angering one of the most powerful political groups in America.
AIPAC have always played both sides; they’re with the GOP right now because the GOP offered full throated support of their genocide in Gaza, while the Dems only offered lukewarm support. But they’ll gladly flip to being all in on the Dems, with whom they still have very close ties, if that’s what it takes to get Trump out of power. Either that or they’ll engineer a Never-Trumper coup within the GOP. Or both.
And that’s before we even consider that Israel certainly has all the real dirt on Epstein.
Controlling Israel is easy. Controlling AIPAC is going to be the biggest political bloodbath of our lifetimes.
I think you’re underestimating the extent to which if the US establishment decides AIPAC is a problem for its own interests they can destroy its influence overnight. Especially with weakened democratic norms and checks and balances, no group, no matter how well connected can be safe from an unhinged executive acting in the name of “saving the country”. If AIPAC becomes a problem to them, if it no longer serves them, they will deal with it. Similar to how whoever doesn’t play nice with Putin meets various kinds of windows.
It is not an accident that a part of the MAGAsphere has already pivoted against Israel. And remember that the fascists have no actual solutions to anything, just an infinite progression of “purification”. They would have zero qualms about going full antisemite within the US if it suited them. And when that time comes, the Zionists will experience the actual difference between antisemitism and antizionism in practice.
Not underestimating that at all, I just think it’s going to take a LOT for the administration to get there. AIPAC’s influence and money have a massive effect on US elections. There’s a reason both parties are so friendly to them even when public opinion is decidedly against Israel.
Money is votes in US elections. I sincerely doubt that the current administration is going to end Citizens United just to shut out Israel.
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed
92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged
88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed
80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities
Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.
75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
Yes, exactly. But they also wrung their hands about it and cried some crocodile tears in public, which was enough to get AIPAC to fully side with the GOP.
My issue is the word lukewarm. It was not lukewarm in fact it was worse during Biden then during Trump. Both are equally responsible for the genocide regardless.
The notion that Biden more strongly supported Isreal’s genocide than Trump has is ludicrous. And that’s not a defence of Biden, it’s just a simple fact. It’s like pointing out that John Wayne Gacy killed more people than Ted Bundy. You’re still allowed to consider both of them despicable monsters.
And yes, they’re both equally responsible, but I never mentioned responsibility, did I? The point was always about who AIPAC wanted to hitch their wagon to, not who actually did what harm.
I literally gave you the data showing that Biden is worse. Biden lied about seeking a cease fire blamed Hamas for it when it was Israel who kept refusing to accept and add new terms. The term lukewarm is ridiculous whatever you apply it to Biden or Trump.
Since July, all of the sources I have spoken to confirmed that Hamas had accepted Biden’s ceasefire proposal that was endorsed by the UN Security Council, which is premised on an 18-weeks long ceasefire divided into three phases, at the end of which there would be a permanent end to the Gaza war after all hostages have been released. The same sources, as well as Israeli media, and the Egyptian mediators have consistently blamed Netanyahu for obstructing the talks and refusing to end the war. Even in the latest ongoing round of negotiations, senior Israeli security officials are sounding the alarm that their Prime Minister is still sabotaging the talks. Yet, the White House keeps insisting that Hamas is “the obstacle.”
I am tired about all the talk about Aipac too. Aipac is funded by Americans , shitty American Politicians willfully accepted being funded by them and stupid American willfully voted for them for decades
At this point you keep missing the point of everything I’ve said so badly that I think you’re just making up a guy to get mad at. Good luck with that I guess, it’s clearly got nothing to do with me.
America may hold Israel’s leash, but AIPAC holds the GOPs balls in a vice.
Remember, Trump is signing this surrender document because he sees this as the least damaging option politically.Now he’s going to have to weigh the damage of a full scale war with Iran against the damage of angering one of the most powerful political groups in America.
AIPAC have always played both sides; they’re with the GOP right now because the GOP offered full throated support of their genocide in Gaza, while the Dems only offered lukewarm support. But they’ll gladly flip to being all in on the Dems, with whom they still have very close ties, if that’s what it takes to get Trump out of power. Either that or they’ll engineer a Never-Trumper coup within the GOP. Or both.
And that’s before we even consider that Israel certainly has all the real dirt on Epstein.
Controlling Israel is easy. Controlling AIPAC is going to be the biggest political bloodbath of our lifetimes.
I think you’re underestimating the extent to which if the US establishment decides AIPAC is a problem for its own interests they can destroy its influence overnight. Especially with weakened democratic norms and checks and balances, no group, no matter how well connected can be safe from an unhinged executive acting in the name of “saving the country”. If AIPAC becomes a problem to them, if it no longer serves them, they will deal with it. Similar to how whoever doesn’t play nice with Putin meets various kinds of windows.
It is not an accident that a part of the MAGAsphere has already pivoted against Israel. And remember that the fascists have no actual solutions to anything, just an infinite progression of “purification”. They would have zero qualms about going full antisemite within the US if it suited them. And when that time comes, the Zionists will experience the actual difference between antisemitism and antizionism in practice.
Not underestimating that at all, I just think it’s going to take a LOT for the administration to get there. AIPAC’s influence and money have a massive effect on US elections. There’s a reason both parties are so friendly to them even when public opinion is decidedly against Israel.
Money is votes in US elections. I sincerely doubt that the current administration is going to end Citizens United just to shut out Israel.
The so called lukewarm support
During Biden
70% of all structures in Gaza were damaged or destroyed
92% of all housing units destroyed or damaged 88% of school buildings were damaged or destroyed
80% of key water, sanitation, and hygiene (WASH) facilities
Only 16 out of 36 hospitals were partially functioning, facing critical shortages of fuel, medicine, and clean water.
75% of agricultural land, including orchards and greenhouses, was damaged or destroyed
edit: the sources
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/01/1158741
https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2024/gaza-is-in-ruins-after-israels-yearlong-offensive-rebuilding-may-take-decades
https://www.dezeen.com/2025/01/22/gaza-housing-92-per-cent-destroyed-damaged-un-report
https://unosat.org/products/4130
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/devastating-lack-shelter-exacerbates-risk-harm-palestinians-gaza
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/verification-damages-schools-based-proximity-damaged-sites-gaza-occupied-palestinian-territory-update-9-may-2025
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/gaza-destroying-agricultural-lands-and-blocking-food-aid-israel-uses-starvation-weapon-war-against-civilians-enar
You have sources for this?
https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/01/1158741
https://www.ap.org/news-highlights/spotlights/2024/gaza-is-in-ruins-after-israels-yearlong-offensive-rebuilding-may-take-decades
https://www.dezeen.com/2025/01/22/gaza-housing-92-per-cent-destroyed-damaged-un-report
https://unosat.org/products/4130
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/devastating-lack-shelter-exacerbates-risk-harm-palestinians-gaza
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/verification-damages-schools-based-proximity-damaged-sites-gaza-occupied-palestinian-territory-update-9-may-2025
https://reliefweb.int/report/occupied-palestinian-territory/gaza-destroying-agricultural-lands-and-blocking-food-aid-israel-uses-starvation-weapon-war-against-civilians-enar
Thanks
Yes, exactly. But they also wrung their hands about it and cried some crocodile tears in public, which was enough to get AIPAC to fully side with the GOP.
My issue is the word lukewarm. It was not lukewarm in fact it was worse during Biden then during Trump. Both are equally responsible for the genocide regardless.
The notion that Biden more strongly supported Isreal’s genocide than Trump has is ludicrous. And that’s not a defence of Biden, it’s just a simple fact. It’s like pointing out that John Wayne Gacy killed more people than Ted Bundy. You’re still allowed to consider both of them despicable monsters.
And yes, they’re both equally responsible, but I never mentioned responsibility, did I? The point was always about who AIPAC wanted to hitch their wagon to, not who actually did what harm.
I literally gave you the data showing that Biden is worse. Biden lied about seeking a cease fire blamed Hamas for it when it was Israel who kept refusing to accept and add new terms. The term lukewarm is ridiculous whatever you apply it to Biden or Trump.
https://internationalpolicy.org/publications/the-biden-administrations-false-history-of-ceasefire-negotiations/
I am tired about all the talk about Aipac too. Aipac is funded by Americans , shitty American Politicians willfully accepted being funded by them and stupid American willfully voted for them for decades
At this point you keep missing the point of everything I’ve said so badly that I think you’re just making up a guy to get mad at. Good luck with that I guess, it’s clearly got nothing to do with me.