Israel awoke to a frightening new reality on Thursday as it absorbed, with disbelief and largely in silence, the terms of Trump’s agreement to end the war with Iran.

It is a disastrous deal from Israel’s point of view, analysts said, because it accomplishes none of Israel’s war aims and arguably leaves the country in worse shape on each of them.

“It’s a bad agreement in which the Americans are paying with cash, and got, at the maximum, a letter of intent,” Yaakov Amidror, a hawkish former national security adviser to Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel, said in an interview.

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      An exercise? Your evidence that Biden would have been more in line with Israel’s plans than Trump is that they did an exercise in an area of the world where the US is constantly starting shit and “needs” to be prepared for the next time they start shit?

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        Why a proud Zionist like Biden enabling the genocide like trump would not be as much in line with Israel’s plan as Trump?

        Yes an exercise leading to this war like the Russian exercise leading to the invasion of Ukraine Zapad-2021 and Union Resolve 2022

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          The Millenium exercise was 26 years ago.

          The Israelis have been trying to get the Americans to invade Iran since 1980 with the same song and dance, only Trump was stupid enough to listen.

          If you think President Harris would’ve fallen for it, that’s just bias confirmation on your part.

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            Why would I trust Harris who said she will not change anything in how Biden was dealing with the genocide and claimed that she worked tirelessly for a cease fire which was a lie? You guys are just dumb cultist not any better than trump and republican cultists. Fuck all the fake anti Israel people on lemmy.

            Rubio admitted that Israel would have gone alone if the USA refused. We all know deep down that even if the USA did not enter the war they would still provide the resources to Israel to try to destroy Iran and we all know Iran would retaliate on American military bases too so america will be forced to join.

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              Biden did not invade Iran, do you really think Netanyahu suddenly got that Idea after Trump became president?

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                No i don’t think Netanyahu got the idea just after trump became president. He wanted to go to the war for decades but he couldn’t because of the circumstances which significally changed in 2024. Israel realized that they got away with the genocide in Gaza enables by both Biden and Trump then they got a fake cease fire with Lebanon making them thinking it is the end of Hezbollah. The next logical step is to go to the head of the “snake” Iran. It was the perfect opportunity.

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                  The very reason Israel was so gung ho about getting the US to attack Iran was because they knew they didn’t have a snow balls chance in hell of taking them out themselves.

                  Iran has 93 million people. Comparing them to Lebanon or Gaza or Jordan is like thinking a championship highschool basketball team could beat the Knicks.

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              We should always believe what Rubio says because he would never lie to us. Can’t decide if you are naive, thick, duplicitous or some combination of the three.

              Never forget, it was Israeli “intelligence” regarding “WMDs” that got GW Bush to start his disastrous invasion of Iraq. Israel are not allies of the USA, they are the USA’s greatest threat and history will likely view them as their manipulation of US foreign policy as the reason for the downfall of the American empire.

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                You are so dumb that is is laughable . Yes Israel was participating in manufacturing consent for the war on Iraq but the war was going to happen with or without it. The war on Iraq was primary about America imperialist interests The mastermind of the war was always Dick Cheney to enrich himself and his companies, to control of Iraq resources and enrichment to military industrial complex . You are the cultist who believe your poor shitty country never hold no responsibility that it is always the fault of other countries and foreign influences.

                You should read about how the region was important for empires for a millennium before spewing the bullshit of how the USA has no imperialist interests in supporting Israel and destroying Iran

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                  You are so dumb that is is laughable

                  Opening with an ad hominem attack, this should be interesting…

                  to control of Iraq resources and enrichment to military industrial complex

                  You are the cultist who believe your poor shitty country never hold no responsibility that it is always the fault of other countries and foreign influences

                  You then proceed with an unintelligible, illiterate diatribe. I was incorrect it was not interesting. I’m also from Ireland not the USA Einstein.

                  You should read about how the region was

                  You should read literally anything buddy, then learn how to write before playing with the big boys.

                  What I have was facts about Israel manipulating the US government, as they have been doing since their shitty settler colony came into existence 70 odd years ago. You gave me your opinion and feelings, stop being so emotional homie, losing will do that to you I suppose…

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                    You then proceed with an unintelligible, illiterate diatribe. I was incorrect it was not interesting. I’m also from Ireland not the USA Einstein.

                    You are projecting. Being in a foreign cult is even worse. It is better to have flawed third-language skills than to be a brainwashed cultist. The fact is that the lie regarding Iraq’s WMDs existed long before Netanyahu. In reality, American intelligence produced an entire report disagreeing with those claims, yet Congress and the Bush administration refused to even read it. The fact remains that the United States has operated as an empire, consistently pursuing imperialist interests in the region. That area has been of critical geopolitical importance for a millennium, yet you refuse to read or learn anything new. You prefer to be spoon-fed lies.