Editorial: If the ceasefire holds, Donald Trump’s ill-starred foray into the Middle East will have left the Iranian regime stronger than it was before the conflict
there were no clear objectives to begin with. Not even unclear political objectives. It was a war of choice for the sole purpose of distracting the world, and especially US citizens, of all the fucked up shit he was doing. Like Immigration and covering up the Epstein files.
And guess what. It worked.
now people are talking about gas prices and grocery prices and the war and not about epstein or his concentration camps.
He doesn’t care about being unpopular, he is a dictator beholden to nobody. He does care about protecting his kompromat that he has over all the other rich pedos. If it gets released it’s no longer valuable to him.
The people who would be upset about ICE or corruption or Epstein are already upset about it. Everyone else is a collaborator or a bystander that’s varying levels of contemptible. Nobody is really going to be swayed by “distractions.”
What I dislike most about this narrative is the idea that if we stayed locked in on Epstein or what have you, it would all be over.
Talking about problems doesn’t inherently fix them.
If 7 hours of 4k footage of Donald Trump raping children were aired on every major news network, what would the American people do differently from what they’re doing now? The correct answer for the vast, vast majority I think is “fuckall.” Anyone who’s paying attention can reasonably determine that Trump is a vicious sexual predator and client of trafficked women and children, but the only question that matters is “what is anyone going to do about it?”
I think it wasn’t just distraction from the Epstein files. It was also a way to manipulate the stock market. I.e. buy stocks, start a war that will raise those stocks as a side effect, then sell them. I just have no way to prove it
Yeah I haven’t bought this argument since day one of the whole thing. Trump didn’t go to war to distract from Epstein or ICE, at least not as directly as you make it.
Pre-war polling saw that Trump’s popularity was pretty much unchanged with likely R voters even through last summer, the December vote, and Bondi’s firing. He’s made it very clear he doesn’t feel like he needs to win over new supporters, either, and with both houses still R at least through November, there wasn’t much reason for him to care about Epstein. It was already out of the news and voters were buying the Bondi-scapegoat story.
The idea that Trump was actually super upset that people were mad about ICE and wanted a distraction is just funny. The show of force, shock, confusion, and coverage was the point, Stephen Miller said as much from day 1, and to reiterate: Trump wasn’t losing any R votes over these policies.
Right wing media had both of these under control with a good spin on them. There was literally no reason to do something so obviously doomed and tank the one thing every American (apparently) cares about, gas prices, to distract from either of these stories that were already on their way out.
Trump started a war with Iran because 1) it’s the thing Israel has been begging anyone to back them up on for fifty years and 2) he felt bullet proof (militarily and petrologically) after Venezuela.
/rant. I had a much better version of this typed up and then refreshed the page and lost it all :-)
i think some of it was to gauge how far the R is willing to still support him, and to distract. the MSM were reporting anything and everything from trump, including his gaffes thats why.
Not sure we have moved on from the Epstein files and Trumps involvement in them. I remember seeing lots of talk about the Epstein files all throughout the epic failure of a war.
I won’t move on till the victims get their justice. Not even trumps death is gonna change that. It’s not just about one very implicated orange fascist.
recently trump is hastily installing right wing federal judges, who were laywers that was defending him in the epstein lawsuits. he definitely to quash this sooner rather than later.
Naturally.
there were no clear objectives to begin with. Not even unclear political objectives. It was a war of choice for the sole purpose of distracting the world, and especially US citizens, of all the fucked up shit he was doing. Like Immigration and covering up the Epstein files.
And guess what. It worked.
now people are talking about gas prices and grocery prices and the war and not about epstein or his concentration camps.
We can talk about more than one thing.
Not sure how it distracts? People are capable of thinking about more than one thing.
I now associate Trump with Jan 6, Epstein, ICE and his failed war in Iran amongst many other things.
The reality is lots of Americans are Trump apologists and agree with what he’s doing. That’s why there isn’t more outrage or action.
People sure, but the media doesn’t. Also how are you going to protest this? The less relevancy, the harder it is to organise.
you do realize high gas and grocery prices make them way more unpopular than the epstein files could?
He doesn’t care about being unpopular, he is a dictator beholden to nobody. He does care about protecting his kompromat that he has over all the other rich pedos. If it gets released it’s no longer valuable to him.
and raising grocery and gas prices is going to help that? the prices have people against the pedos in charge.
The people who would be upset about ICE or corruption or Epstein are already upset about it. Everyone else is a collaborator or a bystander that’s varying levels of contemptible. Nobody is really going to be swayed by “distractions.”
What I dislike most about this narrative is the idea that if we stayed locked in on Epstein or what have you, it would all be over.
Talking about problems doesn’t inherently fix them.
If 7 hours of 4k footage of Donald Trump raping children were aired on every major news network, what would the American people do differently from what they’re doing now? The correct answer for the vast, vast majority I think is “fuckall.” Anyone who’s paying attention can reasonably determine that Trump is a vicious sexual predator and client of trafficked women and children, but the only question that matters is “what is anyone going to do about it?”
I think it wasn’t just distraction from the Epstein files. It was also a way to manipulate the stock market. I.e. buy stocks, start a war that will raise those stocks as a side effect, then sell them. I just have no way to prove it
Yeah I haven’t bought this argument since day one of the whole thing. Trump didn’t go to war to distract from Epstein or ICE, at least not as directly as you make it.
Pre-war polling saw that Trump’s popularity was pretty much unchanged with likely R voters even through last summer, the December vote, and Bondi’s firing. He’s made it very clear he doesn’t feel like he needs to win over new supporters, either, and with both houses still R at least through November, there wasn’t much reason for him to care about Epstein. It was already out of the news and voters were buying the Bondi-scapegoat story.
The idea that Trump was actually super upset that people were mad about ICE and wanted a distraction is just funny. The show of force, shock, confusion, and coverage was the point, Stephen Miller said as much from day 1, and to reiterate: Trump wasn’t losing any R votes over these policies.
Right wing media had both of these under control with a good spin on them. There was literally no reason to do something so obviously doomed and tank the one thing every American (apparently) cares about, gas prices, to distract from either of these stories that were already on their way out.
Trump started a war with Iran because 1) it’s the thing Israel has been begging anyone to back them up on for fifty years and 2) he felt bullet proof (militarily and petrologically) after Venezuela.
/rant. I had a much better version of this typed up and then refreshed the page and lost it all :-)
And don’t forget, crippling middle east oil exports made a lot of US oil companies a LOT of money.
i think some of it was to gauge how far the R is willing to still support him, and to distract. the MSM were reporting anything and everything from trump, including his gaffes thats why.
He was acting under orders from Netanyahu
Israel stole even more of Palestine, as well as significant amounts of Lebanon
They’ll keep stealing more while the rest of the world looks uncomfortably at their shoes for fear of being labelled antisemites
Come on . No western politicians support for israel is about the fesr of being called an antisemite
Not sure we have moved on from the Epstein files and Trumps involvement in them. I remember seeing lots of talk about the Epstein files all throughout the epic failure of a war.
I won’t move on till the victims get their justice. Not even trumps death is gonna change that. It’s not just about one very implicated orange fascist.
recently trump is hastily installing right wing federal judges, who were laywers that was defending him in the epstein lawsuits. he definitely to quash this sooner rather than later.