Ministry of Defence investigates after shots apparently fired within 500 metres of vessel near Isle of Wight

  • zr0@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    22 hours ago

    Well… not a supporter of Russia, but if you sail in collision course to a war ship, ignore all the communication attempts (radio and flares), then you should not be surprised to hear a warning shot.

    Try to do the same with an US war ship, the outcome will be the same.

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        7 hours ago

        This is not true. There is no such thing as “right of way” in international waters. It is based on a give-way and stand-on principle based on COLREG.

        In this case, Rule 18 says that power driven vessels give way to sailing vessels. However, there are multiple exceptions. If the sailing boat was using a motor? Rule 18 is void. If the powered vessel is anchored, rule 18 is void.

        So please do not spread misinformation of things, that have

        1. a clear rule catalog, and
        2. have vessels participating who do not give a fuck about international rules.
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            2 hours ago

            To my understanding, this happened in non-territorial waters. But I have not verified myself, to be honest.

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          7 hours ago

          Yes, there are plenty of things we don’t know and COLREG is quite complicated but I’m pretty sure COLREG doesn’t simply give right of way to bots with guns. So them being on a collision course with a war ship doesn’t really matter here, right?

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            2 hours ago

            If guns or not does not matter in international waters. So if the war ship was moving, and the sail boat was sailing, the war ship must give way to the small sail boat, this is absolutely correct.

            But then again, those are international waters. And we all constantly read news about provoking. Russia, China, Japan, US and plenty more where not even media coverage is happening.

            They just don’t care. The same way the US does not care about shooting at “drug traffickers” in international waters. And all other countries are watching.

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      19 hours ago

      The couple took issue with the Russian version of events.

      Jane added: “They didn’t send up any flares, they didn’t try to radio us, they didn’t look to us like they were adrift, we were definitely not on a collision course. We were going to miss them. It just wasn’t an incident until the gunfire started.”

      According to the couple, it doesn’t match up. I mean they could just be covering their asses, but Russia’s also kind of known for being assholes of late.

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        12 hours ago

        In the couples news interview video she said that after the ship hooted 5 times they “altered course 2 degrees, so that they could see we made a deliberate change of course”.

        That might be a “miss-speak”, but it’s nowhere near a large enough deflection to let anyone know they have been seen.

        If any warship honked at me half way across the channel I’d be turning directly away from them as quickly as possible, under sail or not.