So you are entirely unaware that a large part of organic evolution on this planet has proceeded by species predation.
A large part of organic evolution on this planet has proceeded by rape. Why do I care when considering human ethics? This appeal to nature is always flimsily brought out, and it’s always obviously fallacious.
Or are you aware of it but are simply sliding the definition of words to a disgusting degree to make woke points.
Oops, you dropped the w-word; I’m sorry nobody here can take you seriously anymore, although the rest of your comment is just strawmanning garbage not worth addressing in the first place.
Edit: I guess Lemmy doesn’t find it even a little strange that they’re siding with an ideology that power over others justifies cruelty and that opposition to that is “woke”.
What are you even talking about? The fact that you’re calling it “woke” tells me that there’s no productive conversation to be had with you. You’re saying in obvious bad-faith that calling the intentional killing of a living, sentient being for pleasure “murder” is equating killing e.g. a cow with killing a human child, but that’s obviously ridiculous; there are degrees of severity to morally wrong actions.
You do this all the time; everyone does this all the time. If I see somebody kick a harmless dog, I’d call that “abuse”; you wouldn’t come up and start lecturing me about how “woke” I’m being because I’m diminishing human victims of abuse who are brutally beaten, starved, etc. by their family members.
I phrased my reply that way precisely because you are using emotive human terms incorrectly to illicit a response but you cannot see it. Animals mating without human formalised consent is not rape and culling or predating wild animals or humanely slaughtering livestock is not murder, at least not in the sense you are trying to force. They are human terms and not applicable, also why did it take you so long to tell us you are vegan and have much higher developed sensibilities than the rest of us.
also why did it take you so long to tell us you are vegan
“How do you know someone’s vegan? It’ll come up organically and we’ll still berate them for saying it anyway because the whole ‘they’ll tell you’ thing was always a bad-faith thought-terminating cliché.”
I don’t think I really care to be lectured about how to use language from someone who unironically throws around the word “woke”.
Edit: By the way, just curious about applying “emotive human terms” and where the boundaries are: why did dairy farmers and animal researchers call artificial insemination chutes “rape racks”? Where was their compunction then? Is it only problematic when terms like “rape” aren’t used for “humorous” alliteration?
So you’re just trying to pivot to nutrition as a smokescreen because you know you look bad. You can always tell someone hasn’t touched nutritional literature in the last 20 years when they throw out rhetoric like this.
I’m sorry that I’m not malnourished; I’m just over here enjoying my ~25% lowered risk of ischemic heart disease.
Still managed to work it in though didn’t you, how many people that interact with you know you are vegan? Up around the 100 percent mark I would guess. Is that why you are vegan, to supplement your impoverished personality in the same way your unnatural diet needs to be supplemented. Be more powerful if your conviction was known only to you and you didn’t use it for girl guide badges.
A large part of organic evolution on this planet has proceeded by rape. Why do I care when considering human ethics? This appeal to nature is always flimsily brought out, and it’s always obviously fallacious.
Oops, you dropped the w-word; I’m sorry nobody here can take you seriously anymore, although the rest of your comment is just strawmanning garbage not worth addressing in the first place.
Edit: I guess Lemmy doesn’t find it even a little strange that they’re siding with an ideology that power over others justifies cruelty and that opposition to that is “woke”.
But you cannot answer it can you.
What are you even talking about? The fact that you’re calling it “woke” tells me that there’s no productive conversation to be had with you. You’re saying in obvious bad-faith that calling the intentional killing of a living, sentient being for pleasure “murder” is equating killing e.g. a cow with killing a human child, but that’s obviously ridiculous; there are degrees of severity to morally wrong actions.
You do this all the time; everyone does this all the time. If I see somebody kick a harmless dog, I’d call that “abuse”; you wouldn’t come up and start lecturing me about how “woke” I’m being because I’m diminishing human victims of abuse who are brutally beaten, starved, etc. by their family members.
I phrased my reply that way precisely because you are using emotive human terms incorrectly to illicit a response but you cannot see it. Animals mating without human formalised consent is not rape and culling or predating wild animals or humanely slaughtering livestock is not murder, at least not in the sense you are trying to force. They are human terms and not applicable, also why did it take you so long to tell us you are vegan and have much higher developed sensibilities than the rest of us.
“How do you know someone’s vegan? It’ll come up organically and we’ll still berate them for saying it anyway because the whole ‘they’ll tell you’ thing was always a bad-faith thought-terminating cliché.”
I don’t think I really care to be lectured about how to use language from someone who unironically throws around the word “woke”.
Edit: By the way, just curious about applying “emotive human terms” and where the boundaries are: why did dairy farmers and animal researchers call artificial insemination chutes “rape racks”? Where was their compunction then? Is it only problematic when terms like “rape” aren’t used for “humorous” alliteration?
They were wrong, like you are.
No, it sounds to me like they just got embarrassed and stopped being honest about it.
But your hearing and comprehension are demonstrably poor, probably because you are malnourished.
So you’re just trying to pivot to nutrition as a smokescreen because you know you look bad. You can always tell someone hasn’t touched nutritional literature in the last 20 years when they throw out rhetoric like this.
I’m sorry that I’m not malnourished; I’m just over here enjoying my ~25% lowered risk of ischemic heart disease.
Still managed to work it in though didn’t you, how many people that interact with you know you are vegan? Up around the 100 percent mark I would guess. Is that why you are vegan, to supplement your impoverished personality in the same way your unnatural diet needs to be supplemented. Be more powerful if your conviction was known only to you and you didn’t use it for girl guide badges.
Not answering this one Susan? Busy telling the Amazon driver you are vegan?